Call me crazy but I don’t see where I said he accused me of anything… could you please point it out to me where I said he had? I basically said he was as bad as I am about derailing the topic.
Before you jump down someone’s throat you may want to read what was actually written.
I’ve never seen YoyoGeezer completely off topic in threads, I just want to say that. YoyoGeezer states what he thinks, whether people agree or not. Contrary to what anyone says, YoyoGeezer is excellent at stating very relevant, on topic, yet unpopular viewpoints. If it were not for him, half the discussions on the forum would not be as interesting. That makes him a very important and special part of the equation. It helps discussion when not everyone says “I agree” all the time. YoyoGeezer and I do not always agree, because I do not agree with anyone all the time. But, he says what he has to say, states his opinion, and usually he does not stick around very long to post the same exact thing day in and day out. He does not derail threads. I enjoy his posts, because he has the guts to say what a lot of people are thinking, but will not say. And, he says it in the right place too. I have never seen him get “personal” on the forum either. I just have never seen it.
Well my bad then, I just guessed that since you responded to him, you may have thought it was pointed to you, I mean I really don’t see why you would have responded if it didn’t concern you. Anyhow guess it was just suspicion I’m sorry, forgive me. :-\
This thread hasn’t helped my interests AT ALL and may even go as far as saying it has pushed me away from this throw just because it wasted so much of my time. Seems like there would be more people responding about its actual usage since many have been bought.
The first page made me scratch my head when I read about how it wasn’t made to the limits of titaniums properties (in other words, not going to search back and quote).
I’m new to throwing and would like some titanium throws for sparking for sure and others for their envelope pushing properties that “any” thrower would notice.
The price seems nice to my noob research but the lack of tech specs and reviews makes me wonder why it is any better than some other non Ti throws. Sparking is cool but not the only thing a Ti throw should do to make it better than other high end non Ti throws.
I’ll pick one up most likely but real reviews and specs would have had one in the mail long ago.
Are there other Ti throws that we’re basically just built to spark like this one that I could research to compare reviews? I’ve only been throwing for a week or so and having a collection is in my near future for sure.
What Ti throws have pushed the envelope to take advantage of its properties in all the ways to make the perfect Ti throw? Just curious as how it compares price wise to them.
Are there any Ti throws that aren’t limited? And why is this if they are all limited? Seems like a perfect throw would continue to be produced rather than just limit them until a new design. My noob ignorance could be why I don’t understand this too!
Thanks if someone actually answers these questions to help my throw knowledge expand a little.
I wrote my own layperson’s review of the Ricochet a few pages back in this thread. N8dogg, Stickman and others have agreed and enjoy the Ricochet. The Ricochet was not made “just to spark.” It was meant for a lot of things, and my understanding is that it was made to be played and enjoyed or even collected as well, of which it accomplishes all three.
I personally own the OxyTi9.06, Sovereign, and the Ricochet. Stickman owns the most Titaniums of anyone I’ve seen posting on the forum. He is enjoying the Ricochet, he posted here already, as you may have seen, after reading the whole thread. He would be the best person to ask at this point.
I am enjoying the Ricochet as much as my Oxy Ti 9.06, and paid less than half the price for it. It plays awesome. The person who could have answered your questions best, the OP, YoyoFactoryBen is no longer active on the YoyoExpert forum. This thread wasted his time too, so you are not the only one who felt that way. You may want to find Ben McPhee on Facebook and send him a private message in this regard.
I personally own the Ricochet, and I love it. I’m looking to buy a second one, just saving up a bit more to accomplish that. I think this is a perfect “first titanium” for anyone, especially a beginner. It is smaller, stable, inexpensive, looks great, plays great. Anyone can push the limits of specs, but it does not always result in a throw that plays great. I want a throw that plays great…and this one does. Try those contacts. Good luck.
After you have played for a while, you will realize that the difference between materials are somewhat irrelevant. A good plastic can do about the same as a metal can, and the same for titanium/aluminium.
There will never be an ultimate yoyo that plays better than all, most play awesome.
The Ricochet is currently the only Titanium being sold on american stores. There’s another titanium from YYR which is sold directly on their shop but always sellouts, which is way more expensive (about $400). And there will be a release soon from Northern Spin Co called Vesper.
The truth is that most of the differences between the yoyo’s come to preference, and not performance.
Since titanium is way more expensive than aluminium, and the performance gains are marginal at best, that’s the main reason titaniums go out on limited runs. Not much market for it, and if you make them in bulk a single time, it’s cheaper than making them constantly.
If you want a very durable undersized yoyo made out of titanium that is super good looking and sparks, go right ahead and buy the Ricochet, I love mine, and recommend it if you want to buy it for what it is, a great playing undersized titanium yoyo that sparks.
I myself have 20 yoyos, including a DM2, and for learning tricks, I haven’t found a yoyo better than the DM2 yet. If you want to spend your money, go ahead and be happy, but you’ll be well served with a DM2 for a loooong time. You also won’t notice much difference between the yoyos other than their sizes and shapes (regardless of their price tag) until you’re way further into the game.
And FYI, the people who argued that the Ricochet doesn’t push the envelope of titanium yoyos haven’t even tried one yet.
^ Great point Felipe. If we knew what titanium you want the Ricochet compared to, we could ask Stickman, who has a bunch of them to compare. But, I don’t know of any other titaniums available outside of the BST. That is another great thing about the Ricochet. These will be potentially in the hands of as many as 1000 people. I do not know of any other titanium that has accomplished this much availability. This past July 4th sale, YYE was selling them for $159…a steal. If you were going to get one, that was the time to do it. I think whether you buy or not, these will be sold out sometime in the Fall. Your only hope after that would be the BST. YYE has the specs, and you can tell it is undersized, has some weight to it. I can tell you the Ricochet has a “solid” feel and is stable, with a super shiny finish…the most shine I have ever seen on a yo-yo. I’ll find my review to link to.
Edit…found it:
Thanks! Yea I read the whole thread and just am surprised that others didn’t write a review since I would assume most frequent the forums that bought them. I am appreciative of those of you that did take the time though for sure. And I know how diminishing returns go with everything from electronics, fishing rods/reels, to any other object that is a hobby but the return is there at the end.
Correct me if I’m wrong but from the Tis I’ve seen from searching it seems like most if not all are shaped a tad differently? I don’t have the experience yet to know what shape I feel most comfortable with anyway since my DM2 is my first and only throw.
Thanks again.
Wish I had started throwing a couple weeks before I did way could have took advantage of the sale. But oh well the extra money is better than searching every day for BST only to miss it by a few minutes. Missed another Ti model few days ago by couple hours lol
No problem at all. Generally, I find that the review section of the forum moves quite slowly. You have to catch people in the right mood to write at length about a yo-yo. That was my very first time doing so. No yo-yo is truly bad anyway, it just has features that appeal to some more than others. When I’ve seen a bad review, it usually has to do with features of that yo-yo that do not appeal to “the masses” or it does not suit an individual reviewer’s particular tastes. That is why I don’t read reviews.
People often play a yo-yo for months before writing reviews, so you’ll find it quite common. I have seen Yuki, N8dogg, Stickman, myself, and others post that they were enjoying the yo-yo, but it was not a “review” in the review section per se. As far as I have seen, everyone who posted in this thread, who actually owns a Ricochet, is enjoying it.
Nothing is wrong with the BST because you can save a buck. But, because of the way this yo-yo presents out of the box…you have to see it brand new. You can’t miss out on that. You’ll have some time to buy, so throw a few more months, and if you’re still in the game…take the plunge. 
You won’t regret it. I’m looking to collect Tis myself…so looks like we’re in competition. ;D
Kinda offtopic, but I suggest that you don’t own more than 5 yoyos before you’re pretty good at yoyoing. The more yoyos you have, the less consistent you will be with your learning, as you’ll be swapping things around that tend to affect how you play, practice and learn.
I myself think that if I had bought 3-5 yoyos instead of 20, I’d be much further ahead in playing progress. Keep that in mind before going for a huge collection at the beginning 
Where? As far as i know the Dazzler hasn’t been released yet? The Draupnir is an aluminum/steel hybrid.
This thread is back?
Dear God.
how do you spell yawn?
My bad, I thought I read it somewhere that is was selling already.
I have #158 blue.
Nice number too…that sounds awesome!! I feel lucky to have one.
I think I’d like to try one. Too expensive though.
I know right, I really have this thing for exotic materials too, both Carbon Fibre and Titanium (and Tungsten gets an honourable mention) but I just can’t justify it, even to myself (and that’s saying something) but maybe one day I’ll have the money to spend on some Titanium.
July 4th was the best time to grab one of these. The price, on this site was about that of a Chief. It was really low, like $159 for a titanium, unheard of, and it seems unprecedented. There are enough of these in stock until the fall. I encourage you guys to save up $15 or $20 a week until you have enough in the fall to get one. I’m enjoying mine that much. If cost is a concern, this is definitely the one you want to get. You just get so much for the money, the yo-yo is great and then you get the case, the multitool, extra bearing and string…color options. I wish I could have advised people leading up to the July 4th sale, because it was such a bargain then.
I wish I was aware of it at the time, but given I was still on The Matrix at the time I doubt I could have justified it then either, but maybe if there’s still a blue one next time they go on sale I’ll be up for it. It’s not so much that I don’t have the money, it’s mote that there’s other yoyos I want to buy with that money as well, some Werrd ones in particular to support my local economy
