Yoyo Factory Mystery Box Winter 2024

“Equipped with patent-pending DNA string with swivel technology, it delivers 4x longer DNAs with perfect string tension”

How is this swivel technology allowing for DNAs that do not affect string tension?

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Its similar to fishing tackle swivels

Micro Swivels

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I’m not gonna say I’m the smartest cupcake in the galaxy, but I honestly don’t understand how the swivel keeps string tension neutral after performing DNA.

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Using a counterweight with a ball bearing is also a great way to extend your dna. The swivel seems cool though

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So the swivel attaches the string to the finger? It’s nothing to do with the yo-yo itself? Am I understanding that right?

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Extremely lame to take a well known mod that they didn’t invent and patent it.

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Because the swivel is spinning so the torsion doesn’t build up in the string. The 2 loops coming out of the barrel in the middle spin independently of one another. Make sense?

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Yeah, that makes sense; thanks for explaining it to me like I’m 4, I’ve been sick since October and have been getting very poor sleep since.

Any other yoyo would be fine. Im just saying it shouldnt have been a bust yoyo like the Five. Even a Five itself is fine if they made a working run.

Bad business practice. Many caring yoyo makers would never let yoyos like these even go out for sale. This are B grades, sold by YoyoExpert as an A grade in a mystery bag. Dissapointed, 100%. I blame YoyoFactory, but I do think both brands can do better.

The descriotion should have said guaranteed bimetal and a b grade yoyo. Thats just facts, thats what they sold.

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I wasn’t aware of the five’s existence, and seems like a strange thing. How did it make it so far into production with the hub stack standoffs if they don’t work?? Why are they selling them like that, and who would buy them on purpose??? Very very confusing to me

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Yeah I’m happy I didn’t get this mystery. I don’t need another five. It’s an okay mini but not amazing.

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Yeah that’s why they’re being sold for 15$

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A-may-zing*

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Your statement is completely incorrect.

They are not trying to Patent An existing product

The patent has to do with the ingenuity that they used in the way the Swivel is integrated with the string in its construction.

Remember the old saying… It’s what you don’t know that creates the problem.

In this instance, you and and pretty much everybody else knows that swivels have existed for decades. If you’ve done any fishing at all, you know what a swivel is. Swivels Have been used in many applications when working with cables and things of that nature in order to keep things from finding up.

So swivels are nothing new, which is obviously an understatement.

But when an individual or company comes up with something showing enough ingenuity to warrant a patent, then for possible financial reasons, and to at least discourage copycats, Are often compelled to get a patent to have a legal leg to stand on in the case of patent infringements.

Think of a patent as a fire extinguisher. You don’t have a fire extinguisher at home because you know you’re gonna have a fire. You have a fire extinguisher at home because you know you might have a fire.

I’m sorry that you reacted the way you did without understanding why they did ‘what’ They did.

Yo-yo factory has been around for about 20 years or so. They are pretty well-versed in patent related situations.

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Excellent admission, young Jedi

Being centered and accurately recognizing your predicament goes a long way into long game survival.

Astute observations show much promise.

From that point, you can only improve

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What did they come up with? The concept isn’t new, I don’t see how they could have done anything ingenious lol.

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They came up with selling a swivel on a yoyo string and patenting it. Something others have done without the parent part but hey what do I know

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You’re getting a little thick on me, brother. It’s not a reinvention.

As I had already just recently stated, it’s what you don’t know that’s the problem

I am not gonna turn this into another ‘Mo Just wants to argue situation’.

Because you’re having trouble grasping something, it’s sort of sets me up in a perfect situation for looking like a jerk for trying to enlighten you. I’m not gonna fall into a defensive posture trap.

Just use some common logic and understand it from this point of view>>>> If Yoyo factory wouldn’t have come up with something, Inventive enough to warrant or justify the new patent, Why would they even bother with the expense and the time and the trouble?

Once you figure it out, you’ll remember back to this moment and shake your head and say damn what was I thinking? That is a cool idea.

:face_with_monocle:

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People were trying to patent swivel incorporated yo-yo string at least as far back as 1989.

Abstract

A device for eliminating the twisting and accompanying stress associated with yo-yo strings during operation by providing for rotation of the string about its central elongate axis without rotation of the yo-yo. The device of the present invention is inserted in-line between the yo-yo and the operator grip. The device includes two segments attached by a pivotal axis concentric with the string central axis. The string is divided into two segments, a device-yo-yo segment and a device-operator segment.

https://ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/patents/html/5035667?source=USPAT&requestToken=eyJzdWIiOiJiMzkyMTBjOC0wMGRlLTQyZGEtODQ5Ni1jMmFiZDlhNGRkYzkiLCJ2ZXIiOiJjYzY5ZmYwNC1mZTU1LTQ4M2QtYWE0ZC1kNjE4MDg3MzY5NjMiLCJleHAiOjB9

This is just a point of trivia, I have no idea how it bears on any innovation that YYF has applied to patent.

Anyone know the details of YYFs claims? It’s not obvious to me that they would never invest in ideas that might not pan out.

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From the Commander Keen video games

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