Underrated: Monster
Overrated: Yeti.
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Latest ones are bimetals.
That’s an exception.
Lol.
Kind of I wanted to say its hard to justify them.
Hard to justify an aluminum yoyo?
Lol.
underrated:
Adegle Accel, I haven’t heard much of it.
YYR Stargaser/geyser I haven’t heard much but it might be because it isn’t made anymore.
Overrated:
Most of my thoughts have already been said
Saying that anything 6061 and over $70 is overrated makes you sound fairly ignorant for two reasons. One, you’re confusing overrated with over priced. Two, you’re saying that the limits of 7075 are so far superior to the limits of 6061 that It’s fine if a 7075 yoyo is $150, but if it’s 6061 it needs to be ignored.
As far as i know, the only CLYW you’ve used is the Woolymarmot 2. Not really a staple in their competition line up… Try a Chief, Bonfire, AC2, Puffin 2, Avalanche, or basically any other and you’ll take back what you said about 6061 being so far lesser. It isn’t about the material It’s made out of, It’s about the team/person making it.
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Adding to the under-rated list:
YYF Dogma (I never hear anything about this)
YYJ Revival…I honestly did not expect much when I bought it, thought it was going to be an “ok throw” but after playing it for a bit I found out that this thing is actually pretty amazing!
Eternal Throw Victory - Again, never hear any talk about this, and this is actually one of my favorite throws!
Thought that one would be a first day sell out…I had also convinced myself that Cyrillic “G” was a misprint.
If we’re allowed to step back in time a bit, add the Amplifier to the underrated list.
Yea, I thought that somehow the etching on it got messed up or something when I saw the “Doгma” until I realized that the “г” was essentially a G. I first saw these at BAC and thought they would have sold out as well…only to see 3 Galaxy editions remaining on YYE for the longest time…and one of those 3 found its way to a new home, my yoyo case.
Kind of when I was writing I thought I should make it clear but too lazy too correct it.
Here’s what I meant to say. Any 6061 yoyo that is more then 70 or near $ and is hyped is overrated in my opinion.
Now even though I’ve only tried wooly marmot 2 but I have tried other 6061.
But nothing beats Yoyofactory Cyborg 2.0.
That a case could be I like heavier yoyos but even 6061 heavier yoyos I don’t like them enough.
And yes 7075 is by far really far better then 6061.
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Its indestructible. Even a swoosh on floor would make 6061 vibey and leave a bug mark. But 7075 no vibe and small mark.
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You can have a great amount of rim weight and better design on 7075. Comparatively to 6061.
And yes you are right I mixed up over priced but a 6061 at 150$ is super hard to justify.
But 7075 can still be justified.
I might buy 2hot or Czech point or rebellion series but I will not by an expensive 6061. Or I’ll buy from B/S/T.
Most modern yoyos are basically the same thing, only slight weight or shape difference. Maybe back before 2008-2009 yoyos are “more different” each other than today, be it in the design or quality. Nowadays, yoyo machining has a lot higher standards than what it used to be, even some new far east companies that you probably never heard of now able to make yoyos for really low price, not gonna lie, the machining quality is really comparable to the much more expensive throws.
7075 is not far better than 6061, it’s only slightly harder and have more possibilities for the weight placement but that’s all there is to it, you lose color choices since it’s harder to anodize and they are almost always have higher price.
More rim weight does not make better yoyos, good designs and high quality machining do.
Take a clyw Summit, compared to most yoyos it has less rim weight yet it’s very comfortable and can handle pretty much any 1A tricks you could think of. Sure rim weight is necessary to keep the yoyo spin long enough, but too much rim weight will only make the yoyo spin a little longer, for the expense of comfort and playability. I have played a 6061 that has too much rim weight than most anything I’ve played, and owned a 7075 that I sold because it has too much rim weight.
I personally feel that yoyo designs today are moving towards more and more rim weight and wider shape than ever before. Maybe I’m just old, when I started back then, yoyos are less than 42mm wide and weigh 65-67 grams with “fair” amount of rim weight compared to today.
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You’re right, they are. That’s why everyone is bringing out Bimetal.
Enough rim weight is important for more than just reasonable spin time, it is needed for stability too.
But I agree that maximized rim weight is not always best.
YYJ makes great yoyos at great prices. Don’t get nearly enough love.
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All plastic throws that are more than $15 are overrated. Especially if they are marketed (some call it hyped) by their manufacturer!
Doesn’t that statement sound a bit off? I find sweeping generalizations like the one above, inaccurate and untrue. Price and material don’t paint a complete picture of what the return top will play like. Judging it blindly just keeps you from experiencing a throw you’d otherwise love.
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Nah man, you’re still wrong. Do you know anything about the machining limits of both metals? I’ve never had a problem with any of my 6061 yoyos having vibe after dinging them, and I’ve been yoyoing since 2009. Saying you can have a greater amount of rim weight may be true, but saying that it always leads to a better design is just asinine. As many other well informed people have stated, more rim weight does not equal a better yoyo.
Just because you’ve played a woolymarmot and other 6061 yoyos doesn’t mean that you know how all the CLYW lineup plays. You know what else is made of 6061? The Dv888. I’m not saying that the Dv888 is bad, but you can’t tell me that the Dv888 and Puffin 2 perform similar. If you’ve only played a BSP, you can’t say that all titanium yoyos are sluggish and boring to play. It isn’t about the material, It’s about the creator of the yoyo. It isn’t that hard to understand.
If i gave you two versions of your sacred Cyborg 2.0; one being 6061 and one being 7075, I think you’d find that they both play pretty much the same. In fact, when a company actually makes a 6061 and a 7075 version of the same yoyo, a lot of people prefer the 6061 version. Take the GZR line for example. The GZR Code 2 is a heavy, slow playing yoyo on the string, but the normal version is zippy and good for competition. The AL7 Aftershock may be more stable and spin longer, but you lose a lot of speed and agility compared to the standard version, an attribute highly coveted in yoyoing today. Now, that’s not to say that everything made of 7075 is slower and heavier, those were just some examples to further my point of the material not being the primary source of how well something performs.
I think the problem here, is that you’re making a gross generalization based off of the very limited amount of yoyos you’ve used. Just because the only 7075 yoyo you’ve used is your favorite, doesn’t mean that all 7075 yoyos are better than 6061. It just doesn’t.
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Now just get a summary of situation I read all the posts regarding mine.
Points I agree with you guys.
1 I haven’t tried enough yoyos to say. But from what I’ve tried I can give my input from my experience only.
2 Rim weight is not the best. But once again from the yoyos I’ve tried I think so but it might change.
3 I have not tried the competition Clyws. True. But they are bit expensive too try and the yoyo I’m eying is the weekend. That will be my 1a yoyo for some time. Till that time. That will be by opinion about Clyw.
In fact some people said don’t buy a wooly marmot 2. It might ruin the image of Clyw for you.
And yes I love 7075 till I find a great 6061. Till then 7075 ftw.
And I don’t agree with you that dv88 and puffin point. Puffin is 130$ dv8 is 30$ or near. So no point comparing.
I would like to discuss more if you have any other questions accusations or points.
^^^^If “7075 ftw” is your attitude, then you’re missing out on too many great throws to count.
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Buddy read it whole.
I’m saying till I get a great 6061 yoyo 7075 ftw.
Till then. Not it will be going to.
You till 7075 ftw till I have a better 6061 yoyo.
While I think 6061 and 7075 is still down to design. I mean the best single metals I’ve played are the sleipnir and the valor. But a close second is the tp positron… which is 6061. I think it has to do with design but if you’re looking to push the limits of performance then 7075 would serve you better.
The comparison i was trying to make is that they’re both made out of 6061.