Lexos
October 28, 2012, 4:16am
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Oh, but it still has a really slim profile. I think that guy was talking more about flared butterflies.
wcrase
October 28, 2012, 4:59am
82
The Irving Pro is pretty wide for a wood fixed axle. Large catch zone.
Lexos
October 28, 2012, 5:03am
83
The guy said no butterflies. I think he was referring to the flared gaps though, correct me if I’m wrong.
jhb8426
October 28, 2012, 5:04am
84
One more tip on string…
(Lifted from http://spintastics.com/SSTtips.html )
Dale Oliver’s Famous SWEET SIDE/SOUR SIDE tip
Every Yo-Yo player that has gotten into string tricks (Brain Twisters, Trapezes, Atom Smashers) knows what happens when you put the Yo-Yo on the string ‘backwards’. It has a tendency to ‘bite’ i.e., catch the string and try to wind up. Some Yo-Yos will tolerate this if you are careful, other Yo-Yos will immediately ‘bite’ and freeze up. What does “on the string backwards” mean? The string is wound around itself (about 7 to 9 times per inch at neutral, depending on the type of string). That wind is directional (like a one way street). If you have a sensitive touch, you can feel that the string slides more easily through your fingers from top to bottom than from bottom to top. The Yo-Yo spinning at thousands of R.P.M. greatly multiplies that difference. When the Yo-Yo rides on the ‘Sweet Side’ of the string, i.e., with the direction of the string wind, it is smooth sailing. But when it is put on the string with the spin going against the grain of the string wind, you have a potential disaster. This function is actually used in the trick ‘Thread the Needle’ and ‘The Shotgun’. Many yoers who were trying to learn Brain Twister’ from written directions were continually frustrated by unwittingly putting the Yo-Yo on the string ‘backwards’. What most players don’t know is that the same scenario holds true for the single strand of string that goes around the axle. This ‘single’ string is actually 6, 7 or 8 individual threads twisted together to form the string. It is this unidirectional twist that causes the string to wind around itself those 7 to 9 times per inch. This unidirectional twist also creates the some type of ‘grain’ or ‘sweet side’ experienced with the doubled string. The Yo-Yo will actually spin easier and longer in one direction than the other. I have seen this phenomenon cause problems in every contest that I have ever witnessed. A contestant will ‘test throw’ their Yo-Yo until it sleeps and then try the trick only to have the Yo-Yo return to the hand without sleeping. They will take another test throw and the Yo-Yo sleeps easily. Back to try the trick again and once more the Yo-Yo doesn’t sleep. The trick is to throw a sleeper on the test throw, then take another test throw to put the Yo-Yo back on the ‘sweet side’ of the string for the attempt that counts. When you are on the ‘sweet side’, the Yo-Yo not only sleeps easier and longer, but string tricks run smoother also. I actually use a bi-colored Yo-Yo and set it up so that I know which color needs to be on the right for the ‘sweet side’. Remember, it’s the string not the Yo-Yo so if you use this bi-color method, when you change a string and test it, you may have to remove the string and put it back on the other way to match the color you want to use as a key. It’s best to always use the same color as the key so you don’t have to stop and remember each time which is the ‘sweet side’.
For transaxle players, the sweet side can have an effect too, but in reverse. One of the biggest problems in using a transaxle yo-yo is getting it up at times. The sweet side that makes a standard yo-yo work better will make a transaxle harder to get up…so…if you are in a transaxle competition, better to try the trick on the sour side (particularly on tricks like around the corner) so it will be more responsive on the return. Also in this vein, most transaxles can be adjusted to be more responsive by varying the number of wraps around the axle. The more wraps, the more responsive. You’ll also give up some smoothness at the same time but for some tricks, it can be worth it.
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Lexos
October 28, 2012, 5:08am
85
I’ve never even hear of winding backwards!
wcrase
October 28, 2012, 6:25am
87
Looking back, I think the absentee OP was referring to the Duncan models as opposed to shapes.
Every yoyo in the world is either an imperial or butterfly variation.
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Everything is a variation of those.
wcrase
October 28, 2012, 4:25pm
89
I hit jade whip on my Fremont a few times today. Decided to try to get video of it and missed it about 20 times in a row. I gave up when my knuckles started to hurt too much. If you stall it, it’s almost like a stop and go.
Dang! I was trying jade whips yesterday afternoon to no success. My Baldwin just didn’t seem heavy enough to stay still enough for the whip to hit the catch zone. I’ll get it soon though.
Just hit a throwhand grind on a stock, imperial shaped Russell. Really tricky…
jsell14
October 28, 2012, 5:11pm
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I think I’ve got the trapeze stall down. I’ve been practicing it all weekend with my Imperial. My Butterfly’s axle got destroyed from me trying to cut out a string with scissors. I think I may order a TMBR Lovejoy soon.
Lexos
October 28, 2012, 6:49pm
93
Stop & go is such an impressive trick. I always get positive comments when I do it with my (used to not be broken) imperial.
wcrase
October 29, 2012, 2:50am
94
I’ve always tried to throw non responsive tricks on fixed axles. I’m looking forward to learning the classic tricks. I’m curious whether or how it will effect my bearing play and my personal learning curve.
jsell14
October 29, 2012, 3:41am
96
I made another video.
I’ve really enjoyed playing with fixed axle yoyos so far. I’m looking forward to February!
jhb8426
October 29, 2012, 5:01am
97
That’s a fine looking piece.
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Thanks - I’d never thought of it this way (and the theory makes my brain hurt a little), but I have noticed this while playing fixie, if I have a good long spinning throw - the next is likely to be better suited to a stall.
@LinksLegionaire - that really is a beautiful throw. Even if it does wobble a bit, I’d try work around those flaws, just because it looks so good.
wcrase
October 29, 2012, 5:26am
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Agreed. Looks like it will play fine.
Nice video up there
Haha that’s exactly what I thought
Caught it on my YouTube feed.