That’s my understanding as I had to ask this same question myself lol
No… In this case the tempering is used to color the rims. The raw, red, and black Draupnirs all have raw stainless steel rims. They very well may be tempered in the metallurgical sense to adjust the properties, but I have no idea what that entails, all I know is that the tempered one is the only one with colored rims.
That is an extraordinary perspective. While I do not own a Dazzler, I had the opportunity to throw one for a couple of hours last month while on a trip to Japan. I also got the chance to throw the Draupnir at the same time, which resulted in me buying the Draupnir.
I have over a couple of dozen Titanium YoYo’s, and have learned a few things about them. The first thing is that the alloy a YoYo is manufactured from, in no way insures it’s performance. I also learned that Titanium is not a native resource to most countries and therefore is quite costly to import in many countries, which is what drives the outrageous prices you pay for them. While I was very impressed with the Dazzler, and will buy one when my friend Andre is able to sell me one, I just could not put it in the same league as the Draupnir. I respect your opinion, but would be very curious to hear what exactly gives the Dazzler the edge in your analysis? I do not own many YoYo’s that I would compare to the Draupnir. Out of a collection of 400 YoYo’s, it’s about the only YoYo I’ve been picking up lately. I do still love my Anglams as well I should say.
Out of my Titanium collection, I can honestly say that only a couple of them rate in my top twenty from a performance perspective. I’m not a professional thrower, but I have been throwing pretty much my entire life, and at 55 years old I have seen a lot of evolution in YoYo’ng in the last five years. Titanium’s are fun, but the alloy is just one element in what is required for developing an “Epic” YoYo.
I look forward to finally purchasing a Dazzler myself to further qualify my opinion, but I do not believe it will change much. I honestly feel that the Draupnir is a game changing design, with a huge upward degree of scalability in how far they can continue to improve upon its performance. I can’t wait to see what they release next as it’s contemporary.
That’s just my opinion.
Glad to hear your opinion, Stickman. Good to get some Dazzler insight from a seasoned thrower.
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This is often the case of more V-shaped throws. It’s normally considered a flaw of the thrower rather than the yoyo, but I guess there’s a strong argument that if a yoyo is less forgiving of poor throws then that’s a negative.
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This is a big part of why it’s such an amazing throw. Although it feels so light on the string it still has all the stability and spin time of a much heavier feeling yoyo.
This is also where preference comes into it. If you hate the feel of light throws then the Draupnir probably wont’t change your feelings, but if you’re a fan of them, then the it’s a dream. I know Ryota Ogi still prefers the Overdrive to the Draupnir because finds the latter too light for his play-style.
Really? I felt the opposite, it seems to me like the Draupnir plays a lot heavier than its 63.5g weight…
Let me try to clarify some of my observations:
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It seems to play lighter than the dazzler. Not lightr than the 63.5g spec. I don’t look that closely at specs as they rarely tell the whole story. As far as how it feels on the end of the string it just felt a little less solid. That is true, but the difference is not huge, just extant.
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I am not saying it is a flaw of the yoyo that it requires a better player. It may be that a better player can get more out of this yoyo than a noob like myself. For me, I found the Dazzler to play more effortlessly out of the box. It seemed more stable, more forgiving, to have a perfect feel of solidity and stability, and is easy to throw around. The dazzler was less of these things.
I was playing both of them this morning, and noticed something: the draupnir really benefits from a stronger throw. I don’t throw that hard normally, but if I give it some more spin, the yoyo comes to life. I think I now see why everyone loves it: they throw harder than I do. When thrown harder, the draupnir takes on the description that I read about in these threads. the dazzler doesn’t need this extra strength in the trow to achieve it’s amazing play. The draupnir seems to really benefit form it.
I find throwing hard is harder on my shoulder. I’m old and falling apart. I don’t have a lot of strong throws in me for a given day or week. It will be interesting to see how my impressions of thse 2 throws develops as I live with them longer.
definitely a legit messiah
This may be a question answered in a million other threads, but several YYR that have passed through my hands, and the one above, have this ano flaw on the inner rim by the bearing seat. Any ideas what causes this? Not that I’m bothered by it, simply intrigued.
Could be the way it’s mounted while being anodized, could be some sort of proof mark, i’m not sure either.
They are put there on purpose by YYR to authenticate that they are legit and not knockoffs.
Ohhh, OK thanks!
Not doubting what you are saying but how do you know this? Just looks like where the hanger rested against the yoyo that fed the electricity during the ano process. Wouldn’t be hard to duplicate the blank spot is all I’m saying and seems like its just from the wire. I did notice the spots for the first time just recently.
Since I too feel like the Dazzler is the best yoyo I have thrown I’m curious as to what you think is the best yoyo? I know everyone says that its a matter of preference but I don’t necessarily agree and am working on a thread about the dazzler’s attributes/qualities.
I haven’t had near the opportunity to throw some 400+ different yoyos so don’t take your opinion lightly by any means. I should be able to throw my Draupnir here any day now so will atleast get to add it to my list. I also haven’t thrown an anglam or CC so very well could be missing out on the best.
Julian made a very handy guide.
Having purchased several knockoffs and legitimate models, I concur with Joey. If you’ve ever owned a real YYR, it’s pretty easy to tell when you’ve got a counterfeit model in your hands.
My apologies, I didn’t remember that being in the guide. Sorry!
Even though the “chip” in the ano is there that doesn’t mean it is there as an authentication marking. It’s just a way of authenticating. Their process of applying the ano obviously leaves this mark which just happens to be helpful in determining real yyrs from fakes.
Kind of like the tiny nipple on the Dazzler, there are other older yyrs that have a similar raised nipple in the center of the hub.
Either way, the ano flaw/chip, nipple flaw/marking is most likely just the result of yyr’s manufacturing process and have been keys to identifying them from counterfeits.
It would be hard to believe that either of the two would be intentional markings from yyr in an attempt to help others distinguish theirs from fakes as either could be duplicated. China will and has always made clones of just about everything and are even really happy to tell the customer exactly what they are offering for a much cheaper price. I don’t think its morally correct to encourage such cloning by purchasing but to each their own.
I spent a good part of this evening playing both the draupnir and the dazzler.
I am coming around.
The draupnir didn’t blow me away like the dazzler did, in part because the dazzler had already raised the bar. After a couple hours of playing both back and forth, I am having a hard time picking a favorite. They certainly play differently, but as I am getting to know the Draupnir, I am starting to appreciate what it is, and not just compare it to how it is not a dazzler. THis is a fine yoyo.
I am no longer sure the dazzler sits alone at the top of the heap. We may have 2 throws that are both better than the rest of the field.
I will hopefully get some time this week to string up the Drapnir, Dazzler, Maxbet and Anglam, all with the same length and brand of string, and play them all back to back. I’ll let you know if I still think these 2 new YYRs are heads and shoulders above my best 2 non-YYRs.
What do I think is the best YoYo? What is my favorite?
Well the answer would be that I do not have a favorite Yoyo, which is why I own so darned many of them. It’s impossible for me to say what my favorite YoYo would be since they all have different personalities that are appropriate at different times, and for learning different types of tricks.
I can just tell you that when I had the opportunity to throw and/or buy both the Draupnir & Dazzler, I just felt that for a $200.00 price tag, YoYoRecreation had developed something really special in the Draupnir. I was very tempted by the Dazzler, but for me the Draupnir was something so clearly different than anything else I had thrown before, that the choice was easy. it was also one third the price.
I’m always tempted by Titanium YoYo’s, which is why I own so many of them, but most of the time I’m buying them because they are Titanium, not much else. That’s not to minimize the fantastic performance of the Titanium YoYo’s I own, but no Titanium YoYo I currently own feels like a Draupnir to me.
I should also restate that I fully intend to buy a Dazzler should the opportunity present itself to me through YoYoExpert. I have no doubt I will totally enjoy it as well, but I just wanted the Draupnir first, and the Dazzler I was throwing was the “Demo” YoYo for the store, and the only one they had left, which I didn’t particularly want…I felt that for $600.00, I wanted a brand new YoYo in a box.
That’s all…