Sorry, I do not want to re-quote your valid points; most of which agree with. Just to clarify:
By “overreaction”; I meant moving from a retail to direct sales model in response to the complexities of a fluctuating Yen.
For YYR to sell to American retailers is hard since the price of inventory would be sold at elevated Dollar/Yen levels. Essentially, YYE gets inventory that is by definition, already under-priced by sites in Japan because of the constantly depreciating Yen.
Moving to a direct sales model avoids these issues for YYR. They just sell at whatever the prevailing exchange rate is at a given point in time. It does, however, cut the retailer out.
I tend to believe that a Rolls-Royce is still a Rolls; even at $15,000.
Lets face it, the $200 price-tage made YYR wholly unaffordable to most of the yo-yo world. I am glad that more people can afford YYR and can now see for themselves what wonderful yo-yo’s they are.
Are they less exclusive? Yes.
Are they less good? No way!
Oh i understand. I think i was one of the first ones to speculate a move to direct sales, but i’m not feeling it as much anymore. TP and sOMEThING both have decent direct sales stores, and still have lots of retailers, so i think that’s what we’ll continue to see YYR do. I definitely think non-Japanese retailers get hit the worst. YYE has a lot of Turning Points and YYRs sitting at $200. They’ll have to greatly decrease those prices, hopefully not have to take a loss, to move them. Then again the same goes for the Japanese, all those CLYWs and One Drops are becoming quite expensive for them. BVM2s are 14,900Y, more expensive than YYRs, General Yo Majesties cost 14,9 as well, splashed Cascades are 13,900Y, so yeah, definitely hurts both ways. At the same time when it was the other way around they were getting those same yoyos for 8,000Y-10,000Y. I just feel bad because i know the retailers and manufacturers get blamed(or praised) when prices fluctuate, and it’s hard explaining currency movements and the FOREX market to younger throwers lol.
Have you guys all seen the new YYE edition New Overdrives though? At $175 they’re actually a good deal, as hard as it is to remember 2 months ago, splashed Overdrives were selling out at $180-$190 on YYR, so looks like YYE bought those at a good time:
Also some of the cleanest ano i’ve seen on a YYR. Not sure if YYE forgot to announce these or i just missed them or what. I only noticed them because Kengo posted them on his Instagram a couple months ago and i’d been on the lookout.
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Sure, but part of the reason people want a Rolls-Royce is because it’s so expensive and unaffordable to everyone else. While a Rolls or YYR may perform better than i’s cheaper competitors, many would feel they don’t perform that much better to justify the huge premium. The image associated with the brand is a big part of getting people to pay that premium.
Lowering the price obviously hasn’t affected how great YYRs play, but may well have affected how they are viewed by the market. People may be less willing to pay the premium they ask on future models after seeing them sell for so cheap.
When do you think another load of Draupnirs will be released?I think i might get a berserker rx or krown or attune. If above has an attune that isn’t red. Hit me up, hehe
I think you need to relax a bit. You’ve been posting a lot about the status of your tracking and I feel that your worrying is quite unnecessary.
YYR will get you your package. If, somehow, it doesn’t show up, you can contact them and they will help you. It isn’t like you’re dealing with some kid on the B/S/T. These people make some of the highest quality yoyos on the face of the planet and I’m sure they’re just as invested in getting their yoyos into your hands as you are in getting their yoyos into your hands.
Relax! Don’t worry about the strange tracking-grid-page! Your yoyos will show up whether you check on them or not, so use your time to throw and enjoy yourself instead of fretting over things you can’t control.
I’m not saying this out of annoyance or lack of patience, but it really does seem as if you’re anxious beyond a healthy level about this particular package.
This. I’ve ordered directly from YYR plenty of times and everything’s always arrived packaged properly and in a timely manner. Chill out and play whatever throws you have as much as you can because they’re not going to get much play time once that shiny YYR does arrive.
I am completely new to this forum, this is my first post, and my opinions should be less worthy than crap, but what’s being discussed on this thread is a bunch of crap.
People don’t buy things, or find value in things, because they’re expensive, people buy things because of their quality. If you were to create your own yoyo company and design your yoyo and market it $300 dollars, it wouldn’t be perceived by anyone as good based on it’s cost. You’d have to find some reliable famous yoyoer to praise your product before anyone would be willing to drop money on that crap.
YYR yoyo’s being half the price, while maintaining the same quality only expands their costumer base, which will praise their product to their friends, increasing it even further.
If people could buy a rolls royce, or any high end car, for the price of a honda, hondas wouldn’t exist, period.
If your praise and love for YYR yoyo’s is really true, you have nothing but to rejoice for them being cheap and pushing the competition of the American companies, you’ll be able to buy 2 of the BEST YOYOs ever for the price of one CRAPPY american one.
Now I see why people out of the YYR threads say you people are such fanboys, for christ sake, your favorite yoyo brand goes cheaper and you get saddened by it? talk about stupidity.
Nobody here is really saddened by it, we’re just stating the facts. Certain items are only highly desirable because of the premium status that comes with them. They’re called positional goods: something that’s only valuable to someone because it’s out of the reach of others.
Sure they do. It’s a pretty well known phenomenon in economics. Veblen good - Wikipedia
Handbags, Beats headphones, wine, plenty of examples of products that are massively overpriced yet derive their demand primarily because of that status. Is YYR one of those? No, of course not.
Also if that’s the only thing you got out of this thread then i’m not sure what to tell you. This is by far the most informational source of YYR news in English i’ve seen online. A few posts about YYR prices and that’s what you decide to focus on, and last i checked the posts themselves contained far more information than you even chose to complain about. Please let this be your first and last post on this site. This thread has already gotten a bit crowded with useless posts, i’m afraid yours isn’t helping the cause.
These are people who dont do their research. I buy headphones that have a good price and quality, so do I have beats? Nope, I have 40$ sennheisers that are better to me. I personnaly would like to try a yyr, and now that they are getting cheaper, I think they are worth it. Previosuly their were to many throws just as good quality wise for cheaper
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There are many factors that go into a purchasing decision. Quality is just one of them. Price is another factor. Prestige pricing is a well-known marketing strategy.
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But once I got some famous yoyoers to praise my product and win some major comps and the market was happy to pay $300 for a two small prices of pretty aluminum, I’d then be bit silly to cut the price dramatically for some quick cash, especially if I want them to buy my next yoyo for such a high price.
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But then Rolls Royce may have some trouble convincing people to pay the big bucks again. Right now this doesn’t seem to be a problem for YYR based on the sales of the Draupnir, but it’s a potential risk of such huge price drops.
Ultimately I think you’re assuming a lot of things which just aren’t true. Most of the talk about pricing is largely speculation. I guess we’re just interested in the yoyo industry and how it works.
I don’t count myself as a YYR fanboy and they’re certainly not my favourite brand, nor am I unhappy by their price drops. I’ve always felt they were overpriced at $150+ and it’s only with the recent prices that I’ve acquired some. I can however imagine why some collectors and shops who have invested a lot into the brand might feel unhappy about the current situation.
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Wow, that’s a bit harsh. While you’ve definitely provided lots of great info in this thread, I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to say who should and shouldn’t be posting here.
I chose to comment on the stupidity I saw, it’s my prerogative to comment on whatever I want, and it’s not going to be your silly opinions that will shy me away from giving my honest opinion.
I, for one, am glad that the YYR yoyos are on sale, as I’ll be snagging one for myself. If you buy your yoyos based on your perceived view of a skill toy status, that’s your prerogative. Me? I’m buying one because they seem to be the best cost/value on the market at these prices.
Have fun being a childish diehard fanboy.
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Even at these prices I still think MagicYoYo beats them on a purely cost to value basis. Some of the other Chinese brands probably do too.
