Check your junk mail. Those shipping confirmations seem to have a knack for finding their way in there.
Yuki
already checked the spam folder
They had to change your order, might have delayed it, donât worry, itâs Sunday in Japan, give them a day to get back to work for the week and ship it out.
im so excited
From Spingearâs Instagram:
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One of the clearest pictures iâve seen of the Draupnirâs profile. Dat catch zone. Canât believe it only weighs 63.5g, looks so heavy, t-minus 3 days until we find out how it plays.
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I know this is a YYR appreciation thread butâŚ
Seeing the new prices for YYR; am I the only one that is a bit salty about these âLucky Boxesâ?
Given these new prices, I could have spent $20-30 more and bought three YYR models/colors that I wanted instead of getting 3 random throws. Now, I have a few that are duplicates and the prices are depressed for those at resale.
I do not feel that the âLucky Boxesâ, were all that lucky given the the subsequent actions of YYR and their new pricing.
Canât predict the future. Companies donât generally blow out stock for no particular reason, so there was advance reason to be skeptical!
That said, if you felt at the time that you were getting a good deal, and you jumped on that, hindsight shouldnât change that fact. You did still get yoyos for less than you thought you would ever pay for them!
I have watched the market long enough to guess that YYR prices on the BST will rebound. They are simply the best performance throws made, period. More people will realize that as they now have access to YYR at great prices. Just give it some time. I am pretty happy about the recent sales. I now have more YYR than I ever thought possible, and I am very satisfied that I got them for an amazing deal.
Could have sworn you even speculated something big was coming earlier in this thread due to the lucky boxes? Personally i donât see the big deal. I bought and traded a bunch and ended up with a case Iâm quite happy with. Thereâs a few yoyos that could have been bought flat out, but then again if you wanted a Clashcube, DreadnoughtG, Uragment, Stargeyser, or a few others that were in the boxes but never available for 50% off then you would have been out of luck. I canât complain, and it was probably a good way for them to move big amounts of inventory easily.
Now imagine feelings of shop owners, with few dozens of YYR in stock, selling them still for prices around 190$. I think Yoyorecreation just really damaged their reletionship with many stores.
Seriously⌠If you donât like yours.
I will make you such a crazy offer for itâŚ
Iâve seen a few stores that also lowered their prices($100-$110 range), but not as much as YYR, probably not a big deal for the models like Fragment and Blink with high demand, but yeah gonna be hard to even break even on some of the others, although i think theyâll be fine in time. Iâve seen Draupnirs and new Aeronauts at Yoyo Addict, Spingear, and Yoyo Nest(these are all Japanese-only stores, so hopefully i can mention them, btw they all sold out instantly from what i can tell), which surprised me because iâd said before i thought they were going to move to a more direct sales model, but i guess not. As far as i know though [that big Japanese store] still isnât selling new YYR as of April. Not sure if thatâs because of something that happened between Kengo and Shinya, or more likely that store was sitting on a ton of inventory, talked to Kengo, realized they might be in a bad spot, and this caused some friction in some way? Not sure.
Their tumblr post that seems to confirm postponing those sales: Tumblr
So are the steel rims confirmed for the Draupnir?
Yep, stainless steel afaik.
I want a YYR shirt so bad to rep them, but theyâre like $38 when you can find them, and for some reason YYRâs site doesnât even sell them even though they just had like 5 colors at JN. Just terrible. Câmon YYR!
^^^^sameâŚalways wanted a YYR shirt as well as an IRpad v neck
I was wondering the same thing also. While I am also happy that YYR is finding its way into more hands; it does, however, seem like a slap in the face to the retailers that have supported them over the years. If this new pricing model is permanent, then I fear for YYR in the long run.
Yes, their yo-yoâs are superior and people will seek them out specifically today. But in the long-run, it is not hard to see this momentum starting to slow down as YYR visibility starts to be defined by contests rather than continual product offering and and product marketing. If you only bring out a few models, and they are sold only on a single site, I do not see how YYR keeps the place it has in this industry.
The other factor for them to consider is a macroeconomic one. WIll the Yen stay depressed vs. the dollar in the long-term? If not, then this overreaction to the recent Yen fall may prove to be the real long-term damage to YYR.
And ultimately, why on earth is YYR selling their throws for $80? What possible reason is there to sell the best yo-yoâs for less than inferior oneâs? Sure they are the âoldâ models, but we are talking about YYR. These are the finest yo-yoâs in the world for pity sake! Moving inventory is not a reason to sell a Porsche for less than the Honda Accord. Cut the price to $130-120; but $80? I must be missing something hereâŚ
While Iâm enjoying the recent price cuts offered by YYR, I am a bit confused as to the purpose of them. They could have sold the stock at about the $100-120 mark and probably still most most of their inventory. I guess at $80 though, it pretty much puts YYRs into the hands of a lot more people which could be good when their next wave of releases comes. Definitely keen to see what comes next.
Yuki
Iâm not sure why you would think it was permanent. They just released the Draupnir for 19,800Y, and the Dazzler will be releasing at 49,800Y, if thatâs not high-end pricing i donât know what is.
Hybrid metals, titanium yoyos, plus some models in the works we donât even know about yet. Their product offerings are continuing to improve and itâs safe to say they have a bunch in the works. Already seen the Draupnir on 3 other Japanese sites, so it seems theyâre not focusing exclusively on direct sales, although i think they should, cut prices, increase margins, theyâre an established enough name that they donât need the exposure like some companies might want from big stores. I mean the Draupnirs sold out in what, like 20 minutes, how fast have colors and models been flying out of their store now, and even before the price cuts, the splashed New Overdrives at 18,000Y sold out in a day if i recall correctly, same with the other expensive splashes like the Attune and Stargeyser, etc.
They also just did that awesome news segment which i posted about a page or two back showing some really cool stuff and obviously increasing exposure, not to mention they just had their own YYR contest/get together, took the top 2 spots at Japan nats, sold boat loads of Draupnirs, etc. I donât think marketing and contests are mutually exclusive, i think contests are the best marketing followed closely by well-done videos, and i feel confident they have some cool vids in the works for their new models. They were also a big sponsor at JN and had their whole presentation on new models, i dunno, not sure what else you want from them? The japanese yoyo scene is especially tied to contests even more than mosts, i think theyâre doing great given their customer base.
What overreaction to the Yen? YYR has always and will always price their yoyos in Yen. This is why the prices in USD fluctuate on their site day to day, hour to hour. Kengo only the other day said on Twitter he didnât follow politics, and i think we can assume from that macroeconomic fluctuations, but that he had noticed an uptick in international sales. Itâs my opinion that they never sought to profit from any decrease in the Yen and it was just a bonus that happened without them even noticing at first or considering it. I still believe their main target market is the Japanese one. The people who have to worry about the Yen are the big Japanese stores who do price their international site in dollars. Already their YYRs at $145 are a bit underpriced, if suddenly the USD/JPY drops to 80 or even 90 theyâre going to be forced to raise their prices, which never looks good.
Yeah i suppose thatâs a fair argument. And if their only new offerings are going to be the Draupnir and titaniums at huge prices then it probably would have made sense to lower prices to say 10,000Y, or even 12,000Y where theyâd sell fine, albeit a little slower, but i suspect they have a reason for what theyâre doing. Then again we are talking about a bunch of kids in their 20âs, so we canât fault them if they donât perfectly maximize their profits and continually adjust for macroeconomic forces in their decision making processesâŚ
Could they do some stuff better? Sure. Would i love to consult with them on increasing exposure and information available to international customers? Absolutely. But i donât think itâs the end of the world, i think theyâre just refreshing the company, getting ready for a new start, all that good stuff.
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This. I think theyâre a lot better at designing and playing yoyos than they are at business.
It wouldâve made a lot more sense to significantly reduce their prices and try to clear out stock as they phased in new models. They may have got just as much money in the short term and more in the long term.
But I think the bigger issue with the huge price drops is that theyâve damaged the prestige of the brand. The premium price of the Japanese brands set them apart from most of the market. People equate price with quality, often even when they know better. The dropping Yen was making them more affordable but they were still more pricey than almost all the other brands. Now YYRs are selling for less than most American brands. Releasing the Diffusion already diluted their image, now the huge price drops have done it even more so. Then again I have no idea how their actions are viewed in Japan, which I presume is their primary market. It does seem more and more likely the drama with Rewind and Shinya could be linked to the price drops.