I like it but I also liked the old one. And when the phenomizm was released did people say it was overpriced? I hadn’t heard anything but I don’t really know.
it was overpriced, at least I did complain.
The pre-release with gold rings waslie 120 usd
I’m baffled by this post. Are we even talking about the same company? Draupnir and Laser are some of the most unique and special yoyos released in the last few years imo. Some of the only actual new designs we’ve seen in a very long time. To imply that YYR isn’t still doing amazing things is silly. In fact i find them far more inventive and trailblazing now than when they’d just release mountains of yoyos that were all fairly similar, albeit amazing. Sure they could have kept doing the exact same thing, V-shapes with varying sizes and weight distributions, but there’s probably 15 companies that now do that, so personally i’m thrilled YYR hasn’t stuck with the same formula like so many companies have and instead actually created something new.
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Of course you may have your own opinions. I can, however, ask you to clarify those statements that seem illogical; or run contrary to my experience. That in no way impinges on your right to an opinion; just your right to be vague.
If YYR is copying anyone; then those they are supposedly copying should be asking themselves some serious questions. Whatever team of designers that were supposedly responsible for developing yo-yo’s with this patent; should be fired. Those that hold patents in this area should be asking themselves whether their possession of this patent is actually what our founding-fathers had in mind. When patents prevent innovation or even refinement; most everybody loses.
I am shocked that you are unable to understand what I say.
it is clear that yyr could not continue forever with the change in shape of a V and has done a great job building with rings made in a way as to make it almost inisibili on a yoyo Raw, but what he did not need was to simplify the shape as in Draupnir . the Third Impact was the model that could mark a new way to interpret their old shape , a step forward started with Stardust and continued Clash/Sleipnir and later models, instead of nowhere, a great idea abandoned. a better profile as that of Draupnir already seen on many yoyo ? not for me .
I never said anything of the laser which I think have a logical continuity with the journey of the brand, has specifications that do not meet my taste, but is meant for the 3A so it’s normal to be so tight.
the dazzler is a yoyo that keeps the family friend of the brand, but completely anonymous in the way of playing, a yoyo is made of titanium that can boast nothing compared to its competitors far older . a yoyo uncared for in the implementation (they are several specimens in the presence of a hub in a microscopic internal cup, a sign of an incorrect reset of cnc machine ( for those who do this work know what I’m talking about) and graphics are questionable to say the least ( I would say tranqulillamente bad ) . according to all that is sold at a price it absolutely ridiculous.
Another thing that did not need was to produce yyr yoyo from peanuts as the Diffusion, now worsened by a material more fragile than before … you see sull’aeronaut this , for the old model is not dalrin was no need for parts like cups renere available for the new … why?
regarding the traid I think I’ve already expressed , I add only that qel way of conceiving the axis is not a way used by all , the classic way is with the classic bolt, this is a solution specifically designed to YYJ , called Solid Spin Axle system.
This is what I see . perhaps because every time I take off the blinders?
Greetings …
So Triad and Diffusion got to first shop.
I was thinking Triad will be just Diffusion with metal rings, but where Diffusion borrows shape from Laser, Triad is plastic version of Draupnir. Price is 7800 JPY, which is about 76$. I think we can assume dimensions will be similiar to Laser and Draupnir.
Diffusion is 3500 JPY, about 35$
They wanted their plastic to play as good as possible, but I see they should used inferior design used by everyone, just to avoid pointless rant about copying. :
Ok, we got you dislike shape of Draupnir, but maybe it’s just best shape Kengo found? I talked with him and he seems to be guy looking for simplicity and perfection in his yo-yo designes. Maybe he just had to abandon your beloved original shape, to get to their new level. And he got to one of best yo-yos on market and used by almost everyone on their team, so amybe they like it too.
What is your problem with plastic on Diffusion? Did you hold it in hand so you can judge quality of that plastic? I had and I think its quality was great and see no problem with it. Delrin might be more interesting and more “high-end” for you, but also few times more expensive.
Polycarbonate Aeronaut might be slightly more fragile than delrin version, but it was to reduce price from 160$ to 35$! No one apart from few Asia 4A masters want 160$ offstring, so this was just marketing choice. But there is few polycarbonate Aeronauts between my friends and I never see one cracked, did you?
Hasn’t YYR’s motto always been to seek the best performance?
I personnally think the shape of the Draupnir is the most effective, yes it’s similar to other throws, it’s simple, but this shape allowed YYR to put the most effective weight distribution I’ve seen so far. Seriously, performance-wise, I honestly think the Draupnir is the most effective throw they’ve produced so far.
Yeah, I used “most effective” 3 times
Wasn’t there supposed to be a 3rd new model introduced at JN?
@Bìna
time will tell if the shape of the Draupnir is so prodigious as you say, if the next yyr adopt it will mean to you, I harbor doubts about but we’ll see.
I do not like the turning point and of course their solution to the bimetallic strips can be aesthetically and structurally less elegnate but it certainly is very effective and a leviathan 4B or an isotope can be recognized from a distance that are tuorning point … if it was not a Draupnir for the brand printed on them could be produced by anyone … for me this is an important difference, more than pure performance and raw. when you came out of the ti-walker read egregious comments, it was a yoyo without equal, nothing like it existed … I have it for almost two years and I’d be lying if I said it is a great yoyo that plays very well … but in the end is a yoyo, a little better than others but do not own it prevents me from playing frequently with many other less noble (as the bully of the bbyc that I love)
how to yoyo plastic I generally consider them a crude and ineffective solution that befits the brand of evil side level. my very first yoyo was a Auldey L3 … (great yoyo!), I think are very few that can boast plastic yoyo playability and a resistance acceptable to them … but I still prefer the worst yo-yo aluminum in circulation … and how prices today often is more convenient.
the price of the old aeronaut is equal to $ 72.5 for many months, the difference between the delrin and acrylic is abysmal, both in terms of workability that for physical characteristics (including impact resistance).
delrin is not printed like plastic but machined from solid metal such as, for me, for a $ 72.5 4A Delrin are acceptably well spent, £ 35 for a 4A acrylic are thrown…
opinions…
Just here to let you know again, as it was already pointed out, it is NOT Acrylic. Acrylic is fim, and will shatter with the very first drop, especially how thin it is.
They wanted to tackle the Budget Friendly market.
They also got sick of using the “Same shape different spec” idea.
So what? So what you’re saying is, CLYW is going downhill because they use different shapes?
What about YYF? YYJ? G2? OD? all other brands?
So Just because YYR got tired of the same old, and want to test new waters like other companies, they’re going to decline? I don’t see any other company decline due to thinking of new shapes.
YYR just wants to branch out, and not be forced to be held on a pedestal. Stepped V, thats it. How much more can be done with that? Be honest here, what else can they do with that shape, after how many years of using it and how many models they’ve done?
YYR still has arguably one of the best Yoyo teams, and I haven’t seen/heard ANY of them complain about this new change.
Those brands never had a signature shape.
On a lighter note… I love the Mr. Butcher.
ok, the difference between delrin and plastic … it’s the same thing.
acrylic anyway it does not seem as fragile as material, ask Landon’s 3yo3 that maybe he knows something.
There are brands that have decided early on to use completely different shape for their products and have made them a strong point.
others have a different road always staying connected, and developing a basic idea and making it their strength, yyr is one of them, turning point with the belt shape also (and it seems to me that there still is failing)
it is useless to go forward in my opinion, I have yyr since 2009 and the added value of this brand for me was being able to adapt an idea to the needs and style of a single player (“meets”) … I do not think now is and so it did not really like it.
you okay? great, the world is beautiful because it is varied.
ingenious interpretation of how you can experiment and get a different product while maintaining the same shape and the same family friend … idem for the reclash
enjoy it!
Delrin is name brand celcon.
IDK, me I can see a link between the ReClash and the standard YYR shape, but I can see the same with the Draupnir 
thanks.
in Italy Delrin is the brand name of Polyoximethylene … and I think it is also a registered trademark of the Du Pont
I honestly less, a Draupnir makes me think of a more c22 with flat rim, not a yyr
I still see a double-stepped V-shape.
It looks way more like a YYR than the ReClash IMO
Delrin and Celcon are both trade names of POM (polyoximethylene/acetal) that are polymerized differently. Delrin is a homopolymer (and you are correct that it is a DuPont product) and Celcon is a copolymer.
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