I would do a standard pack in of a single desirable pair and increase the cost of the throw $5. The rings are literally a design element of the yo-yo and I think it would be good to present a consistent experience. I think people who want to go deep on the ring thing will acquire rings.
Also, I presume we do better on economies of scale at the size of the whole run vs. a maybe 50% participation rate (I’m sure it will be lower).
With this in mind, What increment of weight should we offer?
The Workhorse comes in at just under 54 grams.
3mm Rings = 2 grams - about $1.21/pair
3.5mm Rings = 3 Grams - about $1.63/pair
4.5mm Rings = 5 Grams - about $2.16/pair
5mm Rings = 8 Grams - about $1.38/pair
6mm Rings = 10 Grams (TK Rings $2.99)- about $6.48/pair
These are “my” cost to purchase the Orings, does not include shipping or other logistics cost to get them packaged and too G2.
Would be cool to do a Baggie or Envelope with a logo on them.
Knowing this packing it with a 5mm and a 3.5mm pair of rings would make most sense if we go that route
If someone wants tk rings they can buy them from tk
I think the 3.5 get it to the weight of the v1?
Just enough to give anyone who buys the throw a taste of the power of the rings 
There is only about .5 grams difference between the v.1 and v.2 if I recall. I don’t think a 1mm Oring is worth the hassle.
It’s interesting how two yoyos weighing nearly the same, the same shape, play differently based on the weight distribution. The nerd in me really digs this kind of stuff.
That much is fair. Why don’t we just do a pair of 3mm then?
A pair of 3mm provided and if you want buy the 6mm from tk for more weight seems fair.
Regarding weight rings or any other accessories offered with Workhorse V2: My two cents, only offer accessories which are proven to support intended style of play.
Further stated without any purple prose - “Ask Why?”
I just figured that if I wanted the weight rings from V.1 coujld be used in the final product? I guess if one doesn’t have a V.1 , then that is no solution. Why not just offer the pack of three weight rings as an accessory at an additional cost?
The why. We made a yoyo that takes weight rings shouldn’t we show that off
No “
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As much as i would love to have a pack of 5 different rings come with every workhorse or bought buy us and resold as an accessory . The logistics and finances aren’t really supporting doing either of those at the moment. Best we could do is maybe offer one ring option with the yoyo and give folks the dimensions and links to where they could source more if desired.
Making one set of rings optional also isn’t really all that appealing from a numbers perspective as we would most likely end up either ordering less than folks want or more likely ending up with a stock of rings we can’t offload and would throw into future orders anyway just to get rid of them.
Enclose an info packet with the size o-ring that woks and possible sources is then the way to go. None of this can be someone’s full time job as a public service.
So the “special” strings weren’t in my box with the v2, I just put a normal Kitty on it and the response is perfect for me. Emphasis on “for me.” It’s no where near as responsive as the v1. My v1 is breaking in close to the new v2 though.
They’re both great and I’m glad we got this thing going and made, thanks again @G2_Jake for the production!
I actually slapped a Throw-Yo Ink on the v2, and it cut the responsiveness down for me, though I didn’t feel it was too responsive with a normal poly string.
So which Throw Yo string should we include with production?
The previous woody wagon did not hit the mark it seems?
I would suggest Elixirs or Inks, 8cP.
My new string recipe is also MUCH easier to string up, which should relieve a lot of frustration people were having with the woody wagon strings that came with the v2.
As of the 1st of September, I won’t even be offering Ethers or Solvents anymore. I’ll be focusing purely on my premium lines.
what im seeing is i need to get in on the new throw you string i think i haven’t tried the latest of any of the current line yet.
also apparently i ended up with 4 pifs all at once some for months without realizing it. i think im gonna hold off on taking more pay it forwards till i can get my stuff in order.
on the topic of pay it forwards im sending my workhorse and some other cool stuff to alex morton and he is gonna pass it around to a few folks on his team before it makes it back to me which will be cool to give it a little expsure that way.
Oooooo man I am jonesing for the production Work Horse. Although I don’t see myself ever using weight rings with it, I’m fine with incurring a slightly higher cost if the club decides to include them in every package.
