Why is "H" shape relatively uncommon today?

[codinghorror]

OK so we got yo-yo shapes! W, H, O, V … and sometimes M

The above is the 2016 OneDrop benchmarks, but there is some debate as to whether or not their “H” is… actually an H?

Basically there has to be an inverted organic curve from the response area to the rim. Otherwise it’s just a W … and I’d say the “2016 benchmark onedrop H” pictured above is in fact a (very) slightly different W, because there’s no real inward curve to be found on it.

Here’s what an actual H shaped yo-yo looks like:

Eternal Throws Sesh, and Yanasai Scissortail (oversize), respectively.

I tend to agree that OD has never really made a true H, on top of that, H shapes are maybe the least common yo-yo shape on the market right now?

I think H shapes play fantastic and lots of other people like 'em too… but if we had to make a list of all the H-shape yo-yos for sale at YYE for example, it’s a surprisingly small list!

I wonder why that is?

[JohnnyJ]

Closest thing OD has made to an H I think is the burnside, right?

Even then though, more a flat rimmed V

[Damb]

Is the Tundra considered an H shape?

[TheThrowingGnome]

Isn’t most of the iyoyo stuff H shaped? Veritas and ippon = V but most all the others are as H as I’ve played.

[codinghorror]

Yes, iYoYo is kinda the of H shapes. The iceberg is I believe a hybrid H as well. They do other stuff too but it’s their bread and butter.

[E2_yoyos (Ethan Evans)]

Do we consider a “bell shape” yoyo like an H shape? bell is arguably one of the best overall shapes imo

[smileypants707]

On a side note, I just realized for the first time that in the Benchmark picture, the yoyos are resting on bulk aluminum stock. I wonder what those rods got turned into?

Also, can this get the H-iest H award? Hubless-Bite size

[Glenacius_K (Spinworthy Glen)]

@codinghorror

Basically there has to be an inverted organic curve from the response area to the rim . Otherwise it’s just a W …

How do you know that?

[codinghorror]

Yeah there’s a lot of old timey hardcore H-es.

Spectrum SE from 2011, this just came up here recently:

[Glenacius_K (Spinworthy Glen)]

I’d say the Onedrop H is a H shape. There is an immediate drop from the rim before the slope to the response.

[codinghorror]

Only in a verrrry desultory, minimal way. It’s like the laziest, least effectual H, a barely tweaked W.

[Glenacius_K (Spinworthy Glen)]

Yes, I see what you’re saying. As a benchmark shape it could have been a lot more pronounced.

[codinghorror]

@E2_yoyos

Do we consider a “bell shape” yoyo like an H shape?

Is "bell" yo-yo shape a thing?

There is a trend in yo-yo to produce “bell” shapes. Like so [bell-shaped-yoyos] Of course we have the W/H/O/V canon, but bell comes up so often as a pleasing mixture that it could be its own distinct thing, perhaps? I do think this is a reliably great yo-yo shape! Maybe it could also be called “trumpet” shape?

Kinda, yeah. Depends on the bell-i-ness.

I would say the Knight & Gale (bottom left) definitely is, Banshee a bit less so. Overall I think so yes.

[smileypants707]

The Bite-size is literally an H though. It can’t get much H-ier than that. _IMO

[JohnnyJ]

The Akita seems to be a good example of bell shaped

[Glenacius_K (Spinworthy Glen)]

What confuses me is that people call this a V shape.

[JohnnyJ]

Based off the criteria that would be a W, correct?

These shapes can be very confusing lol

[AngryGumball]

The Serenade is an awesome Delrin h-shape throw. Super comfy in the hands too!

[crackout (Dominik of ILYY)]

@codinghorror

Basically there has to be an inverted organic curve from the response area to the rim . Otherwise it’s just a W …

So by this definition, I accidentally created a H-shape yoyo back in '06 when I designed the Noctu.

I never saw the Noctu as a H-shape though.

To me, the ‘cleanest’ looking H-shape yoyo is the Envy by hspin.

[codinghorror]

I’m seeing the rare M shape in that Noctu!