When the pros throw a trapeze...


#1

I have a really newbie question but I have been watching quite a few videos of professionals (and even non-pros) on youtube. When I watch them throw a trapeze to start off a trick, why do they always miss the string on the initial throw and spin the yoyo around before landing on a trapeze? This movement honestly confuses me and I was just curious if anyone else knew what the purpose of this movement was all about.


#2

If the trick actually starts with a trapeze, I guess they’re just adding a pinwheel (that’s the name of the miss and extra spin around) as a flourish. I more often see the “miss” when they’re setting up for showing a trick that starts with a sleeping breakaway.


#3

If I understand you correctly, in a nutshell it is either used as flair or to represent that it is a sleeping breakaway? It seems like a really common thing that just about everyone does. I figured it was something to add some balance to the yoyo through inertia or something. I suppose just spicing up the landing a bit would make sense.


#4

Yeah, so if the trick actually starts with a trapeze, that extra pinwheel is just extra flair. Not a part of the trick per se. I would imagine some tricks “should” start with a pinwheel, but most times it’s just an extra bit added on.

The sleeping breakaway I’m talking about is something different. Some tutorials start on the breakaway. The instructor throws a breakaway, lets it go around a NTH finger, and then straight down. Then the tutorial starts. Others will just throw the breakaway in such a way that it never goes “up and around”, but is sleeping down right from the initial throw. I think people who do the extra loop probably get more power out of their throw by imagining it’s a full-on breakaway (which should ultimately swing out to the side, not stay downward) and then “taming” it with that extra swing.


#5

Ahhh I see. Thank you very much. I actually just clicked on a video where jason lee does it to begin almost every trapeze throw.


#6

Yup, just an extra flourish. I do it sometimes, too. It just feels good sometimes. :wink:


#7

Alright, that clears up a couple hours out of my schedule for the next few days lol. I don’t need to scour the interwebs constantly pounding google to find an answer.


#8

The more you play, you’ll get used to the extra spinning or extra missing some sorta called pinwheel.

It’s just a little addition to make things looks a lil better, or smoother, that’s all.

Btw, I’m also get used to that extra move, it makes me land a trapeze more accurate and lil time for me to prepare to get into action. Even Hiroyuki does this :smiley:


#9

Actually, it’s also a habit. Once it starts to happen, it turns into a constant habit of adding a pinwheel. It almost feel unnatural for me to go into my trapeze without the pinwheel.


#10

I’m the same way. It completely has become habit. It also gives me an extra few seconds to decide what trick/combo I’m going to go into. I think that’s the main reason I do it, extra deliberation time after I throw the yoyo.


#11

I never even thought about it until this thread, but I do the pinwheel thing probably 75%+ after a trapeze


#12

I almost never do the pinwheel but I always start off a trapeze trick with a laceration.


(Alex Fairhurst) #13

Force of habit for me as well. It started out as just a way to add flair. Now I don’t even think about it. Heck, I don’t even have to be going into a trapeze. I’ll do the pin wheel before entering 1.5, wrist mount, etc.


#14

Doing a pinwheel allows for speed adjustment and adds consistency that sometimes is lacking in a breakaway.


#15

I do it every time. I feel it makes it easier to get the trapeze afterwards. Like the first time I’m doing it half-assed then the next time I’m going all in.


#16

They do it cuz there trapeeze is sloppy and the extra circle straightens the throw


#17

When I was a new i threw a trapeze I just go right into it but now when I do it I do the extra pin wheel for some reason. It just feels natural.


#18

I honestly can’t believe that this became as popular of a topic as it has lol. Everyone seems to have similar reasons behind the added pinwheel, that is really interesting.


(Erik Kerber ) #19

I like never do that but its just some thing to smooth the trick out


#20

I do it so there isn’t as much force when the YoYo lands on the string, doing a full power breakaway and landing in the string looks very sloppy.