I don’t know if I’m willing to say 21mm is superior. I had debated mentioning it in my post, but I opted not to. I think the biggest reason for me preferring 21mm is in large part due to having far fewer companies support it, so there’s inherently less variance.
21mm for me is good because when I get snow tires… I get snow tires, and same with summer tires. I’m getting a singular product from a singular manufacturer (C3 produces snow/summer tires), and CLYW is designing the response of their yoyo around this specific product. I haven’t tried 21mm sochi pads or dad pads (zero clue who makes those), but 21mm RSO pads are very different from both snow and summer tires. If more companies were putting out 21mm pads I feel like I’d have the same complaint I have about 19mm pads.
In terms of play benefit it’s just far too hard for me to tell what is and isn’t placebo about the affect on play. Would love to see a yoyo design that was identical in every aspect sans the response groove. I keep thinking about picking up a second Freehand One AL (large bearing) and modding it to accept snow tires. Eventually I’ll get around to it.
I think why I like snow tires is the exact reason why a lot of people like flow groove. When you buy flow groove you’re specifically getting flow groove, and One Drop is designing their yoyos around flow groove.
Thanks for your reply @hobby_master and @hsb. I totaly agree: natural sun light and a light collored floor is a game changer to a degree. But usally I throw inside within the evening hours under warm artificial light and over a grey fuzzy carpet which absorbs practically anything but super bright neon colors. I guess I could convince my wife to change to an epic fake polar-bearskin as a carpet but just using neon collored string might be more efficent
I think if response pad variation/compatibility/performance was something that plagued me so often that it qualified as a “biggest pet peeve” for me then I’d start flowing my own silicone.
Just got flowable and enjoy. The only down side is if you mess up initially, or want to adjust after its set. Its a hassel to redo. But having the option to silicone any modern yoyo is huge.
It doesn’t plague me often, I mostly throw CLYWs so I just use snow/summer tires. I just got a yoyo though that doesn’t take pads at all despite looking like it has a standard 19mm response.
I got the yoyo knowing this, but the previous owner didn’t. The previous owner didn’t like the yoyo because they didn’t realize that they had to flow their own silicone for it or the yoyo would just suck to play because the pads would slightly protrude out of the well. I’ve had like two other times where I’ve just had to trash brand new pads because they didn’t fit properly.
I am done with 19mm pads though, so you’re correct in that this was a big enough pet peeve for me to have swapped over to silicone.
THISSSSSS^^^^^^^ im not over seas but i ordered from a small company mainly bc they were based in the town i grew up in… takes the the guy weeks to event make them then anyther week for shipping.
i finally get them and cant see any of them during play. they look great in pics but i cant use them.
every now and then i make the mistake of getting strings that arent yellow or green and i always end up giving them away
Yes @SlowYo I highly recommend you getting some of these dudes’ wood in your hands. Not only for the wonderful double entendre, but also because they make good stuff! @RC_yo-yo @Eric_Newlin @Glenacius_K (though he is hiatus-ing at the moment) @vegabomb @aironish (not sure how often he turns, but the one I have is fun!)
