Thank you 
I donât understand why every company should be making the same things. Thatâs boring.
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Adding fuel to the fire.
Worn bearing posts with a lot of One Drops is a easy fix. Change side effects.
Genious concept in my opinion.
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Iâm not opposed to spending more money to get something that I see the value in. US manufacturing can be really good and I like the idea of supporting a more local or domestic business.
I donât subscribe to the idea that Chinese manufacturing is bad quality though. They can hit price points that are low and you usually get what you pay for, but they are also capable of some of the best manufacturing in the world.
Outside of yoyos though I mostly see that people like the idea of made in the USA until it comes time to open their wallets.
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Now letâs get back to topic. Although I donât speak for FPM myself and itâs just a mere partnership through yoyofriends. I can attest to their quality and how hard they work to push the limit of yoyoing in terms of quality, design and manufacturing development in general. I basically wrote every single yoyofriends story and their drive is insane. Letâs not just mention their bimetal quality and the mastery over 7068, itâs their drive to push whatâs possible and beyond the limit. What really moved me was the their first crack at MG yoyo, cloudstrike. It went thru multiple failures, hardship and cost.
And now we are doubling down with mgss
Letâs also see the the hardship on making Damascus Ti
They made all this to master their craft while holding quality to a very high standard that ultimately benefited other companies who utilizes these technologies, even american driven ones. Prime example on Damascus is ENSO
Also the use of copper ring on some of the hummingbird, the up coming AoE are all a testament over their drive for manufacturing.
Also if you think vulture has big ss ring for inner ring yoyo, yall donât know whatâs coming next.
Itâs a case by case basis. We should not generalize based on country of origin.
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yâall do gods work.
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I feel like this convo has diverged from the topic at hand. @Nova hit it on the head.
This shouldnât be a One Drop bashing contest since in all honesty they do their own thing and thatâs what they are known for. We might not all agree in their design priorities however thatâs one drop.
Now sadly (in terms of lack of competition) they are the only major representative of USA machining. Every OD Iâve tried is smooth, now they might not be designs I might go for, nor are they pushing the design envelope like they used to, but that probably isnât a priority for them. So from a machine quality perspective I think itâs good.
However the downside is that almost every business will be priced out of working with OD, along with them not taking certain requests. Which makes them not preferable in terms of a business choice.
On the topic of Chinese machining, FPM, TopYo and Empire do fantastic work. I personally use FPM even though they are pretty expensive, because I know they strive to do their best on even the hardest requests. I have confidence in Chinese machining and quality to meet and even exceed USA machining.
To expand on this: Empire pioneered machined plastics into a dead smooth science, and TopYo gave us quality machining in cheap bulk rates with great anodizing options. Shops have their specialties regardless of where they are located.
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Okay now everyone go practice and/or learn a new trick today! Thatâs what we should be doing instead of caring so deeply about how and where these things are made.
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This thread makes me want to go buy a One Drop.
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Getting close to that damn hole in a bucket over here.
I donât think country matters. Itâs the manufacturer, which is hidden by a lot of brands, so we donât even know a lot of times what weâre getting. Some yoyos the tight tolerances are definitely annoying, Iâve come to find out.
I ainât opening my yoyos anymore is what Iâve taken away from this thread. Iâll play responsive if I gotta!
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These threads turn into an argument of cheaper yo-yos machined in China, vs more pricey One Drops machined in the US, while completely glossing over the price difference in an attempt to display US superiority in machining quality. Of course the $15 Magic Yo-yo will be lower in quality. People tend to forget you get what you pay for applies here still.
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I donât think everyone is making the same thing. A lot of it just happens to be competition focused.
I think most folks respect that you guys stay in your lane doing what you want however also many fans crave a modern OD which is why you see a lot of criticism.
An updated rim weighted OD would absolutely slap.
Reboot/Rebirth were great, rim weighted 2023 re-evaluation of the cascade?
Count me in!
However if thatâs not your current priority then thereâs no harm in that. Thatâs just what the current landscape is looking like from a demand standpoint. Youâre in a position as a legacy company to have successful releases even if the designs are not all that great from a modern play standpoint.
But this goes back to criticism about releases and nothing to do with the topic at hand haha.
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I donât understand why this discussion is being presented as âChina vs USâ if the only US rep is OD.
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Donât forget my buddy Frank!!!
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Supposedly YYF makes a few models in the US. Not sure which ones, and Ben deleted his account so I donât think weâll get an answer but I guess thatâs the case.
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Right, i forgot stuff like the yyf american existed
What other shops are there in the U.S. besides One Drop? I know there are a bunch of American companies, but everything Iâve seen out of those other brands are made in China.
NowâŚthis is the most boomer topic I can ever read lmao. 
Yoyo is a toy, please lets remember that.
One drop is ok with build quality (bit less on anodising tbh, I have 30ÂŁ Chinese yoyos that look better), but even build quality a ding is a ding in pretty much every yoyo.
Chinese yoyo can be bad but also can be good, like everything, mostly i think it depend maybe from the price (wellâŚagainâŚlook at the Yyfriends shortcut)
I think many people here have prejudice against a country more than their work quality which seems a bad habit and quite an old way of thinking.
Getting obsessed about the bearing sit, tight or not, is a full waste of time, a total waste of time tbh.
Lets not forget that thanks to china so many people not able to afford 70ÂŁ monometal, they can start and yoyo easily spending more or less 12ÂŁ and this is not a detail to leave out honestly.
Leaving out the âthink about your tricks and less about the yoyoâ I think this is a war against windmills, we have 2 countries both able to create great stuff, maybe is worth to collaborate instead of fighting for who is betterâŚhumansâŚ
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There is an unnamed shop(s?) around AZ that YYF uses.
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By ârim weightedâ are you only referring to bimetal? Because there are certainly rim-bias weighted yoyos in their line-up. Maybe they donât push it to extremes as much as, say, Yoyorecreation, but they are there.
As far as âwide,â what do you consider that to be? Looking at their site, they have yoyos in the 45-48mm range.