these threads always get so vicious and nitpicky. i gotta stop checking the updates…hard not to watch the trainwreck.
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How’s this for axial rim weight? It’s 58x58mm, the weight is all the way to the edge, walls are 1mm thick, it’s glass smooth, super stable and the bearing doesn’t squeek when you remove it with your fingers. You don’t make yoyos like that lmao.
edit - Maybe this conversation is why people don’t make yoyos in America anymore
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Honestly the weight being set back into the profile (like the 1-to-1, wyvern, free solo, legendary terrarian…) is my gripe with a lot of OD yoyos. Not saying they would all be better otherwise, but I wish there was a few that would break the mould.
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David’s out here telling us he can’t do it though, because his homie with a phd says it’s bad
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That is not at all what David has said. All he’s said is there are a lot of different tolerances that go into making a smooth yoyo, that wide axially rim-weighted yoyos are less tolerant to error, and that they have their designs reviewed for error tolerances. Nowhere does he say they cant.
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What I read was an explanation for why certain designs are more difficult to produce to a certain standard.
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then he called 43mm wide
Personally, I don’t agree that 43mm is wide. But I also don’t see why an opinion on that issue matters.
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It doesn’t. I got a bit side tracked and flamey. Probably should have, my bad. Sorry
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I thought it was just cuz David was talking about how people want wide and rim weighted yoyos when while yes, it’s subjective, the vast majority of people nowadays would not consider 43mm wide and more and more people are becoming interested in yoyos with rim weight at the very edge rather than set back like fradiger mentioned. So it just makes it seem like there’s a bit of a disconnect between what most people think/want now vs. what David’s vision is. This isn’t even going into the whole bimetal and flat bearing things either. What people want now in 2023 vs 2013 is pretty different but it doesn’t seem like One Drop’s releases have reflected that much.
And again, like I stated earlier, One Drop’s always going to have a loyal following but I just feel like this potential disconnect is making the company more and more niche with every passing year. And tbh, I’m not even sure if most people who enjoy OD today would even say that they enjoy them necessarily because they’re wide and rim weighted.
The fact that everyone in this topic just blazed right past your comment tells you all you need to know.
The USA vs China topic is over and now it’s a OneDrop critique post.
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I found plastic bearing seats to remove much easier than metal. Are the metal the same? I’m just curious not trying to sound argumentive or anything.
The year is 2050. Yoyoing has changed in many ways. Mir Kim is on track to win his 28th consecutive world title in the 1a division, utilizing his new signature yoyo the YoyoFactory Miraculousness. The new signature release was a historic event, being the first titanium yoyo to push 60mm in width, allowing Mir to effortlessly land his tricks on stage.
Meanwhile, in Eugene Oregon, Shawn and David at One Drop yoyos were hard at work on their next release. Their next release was rumored to be a game changer. A yoyo that would be the perfect combination of style and performance, a yoyo that would redefine the limits of yoyoing.
The team had been working on this yoyo for the past two years, and they were confident that it would be a hit. Named the “Venture” and made from high quality American aluminum, all of the groundwork was laid for an excellent yoyo design. The problem is, David just deleted the CAD by accident.
“Wait did you just delete the CAD file?”
Shawn and David stared at each other in disbelief. They had spent countless hours working on the CAD file for the Venture yoyo, perfecting every curve and edge to ensure the best possible performance. And now, in a moment of carelessness, it was all gone.
David slumped back in his chair, his head in his hands. “I don’t know how it happened. I must have hit the wrong button or something.”
Shawn paced back and forth, his mind racing. “We can’t start from scratch now. We don’t have the time. The Venture is supposed to release in two months.”
“Don’t you just remember enough about the design to recreate it quickly?”
David shook his head. “Not really. I mean, I know the basics, but the devil is in the details, you know? We spent so much time perfecting the weight distribution.”
Shawn let out a sigh. “Okay, let’s not panic yet. Maybe we can salvage something from the situation. What do you remember about the prototypes we sent out?”
“Well, they were wide.”
Shawn stopped his pacing. “Wide? How wide?”
David thought for a moment. “43mm.”
“David that’s not wide.”
“It’s wide compared to what we’ve made in the past,” David replied defensively. “It’s subjective after all.”
“Okay, but surely, it was wider than that,” Shawn leveled flatly.
David shook his head. “No, it wasn’t. This was the widest yoyo we’d ever made. We were breaking new ground with this design.” He paused for a second, then added. “Plus, if I remember correctly, it was pretty much perfect at 43mm.”
Shawn disagreed. “Perfect? No way. You can’t get perfect performance out of something that thin. Might as well be throwing a slimline at that point.”
David was silent for a moment, then smiled. “Okay, okay. Let’s make it wide then. How about 44mm?”
Shawn nodded slowly, and continued to work on the CAD with David.
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It is wide given a particular diameter. It’s the ratio that matters.
Hows your yoyo company doing?
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Poorly, thanks for asking 
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I’m not too sure. AoE uses a metal insert so the bearing post is still metal. The other yoyo is the aggressor by my boi gingie.
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I lost track of my original point, which was that most companies are making yoyos with loose bearing seats and that doesn’t set any company apart anymore.
Plenty of great yoyos coming from China. Other companies aren’t making in america because the price is absurd and nobody wants to pay $200 or more for a monometal. Companies have tried and died for it.
Again, sorry for getting heated. Didn’t deserve it, but I still think it’s absurd to call a 43mm width yoyo wide. Even if it’s about the ratio. a 43mm wide small diamter yoyo would just be called a small yoyo, not a wide one.
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The market is expanding to include designs that OD doesn’t care to make for various reasons. Belief that some people are demanding a designs that don’t make sense for OD to produce is one of those reasons.
If that continues then of course OD will be in a niche. As long as it is a niche large enough to support their business goals, I don’t see a problem to solve.
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I responded =[