Is it scientifically correct to say that Wider yoyos are more prone to vibe than narrower ones?
I happen to have a very wide yoyo that was machined by FPM, 8mm axle, was dead smooth out of the box. Played like a dream. 7075 aluminium (or 7068 not sure). All it took was one ding for it to become vibey which truly ruins the experience in a way. What should I do to tune it out? Tried swapping the bearing but wasn’t very helpful. It also squeaks whenever I unscrew it so I’m not sure I would feel comfortable swapping out the axle (came like that straight out of the box).
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To fix the squeaking you can put a bit of lube on your bearing posts (very small amount again, just like normal, I use onedrop’s lube for this and it works great). It usually has nothing to do with the axle itself, and in my experience is always because the bearing and the bearing post fight together very tight.
@fradiger I did this to my shutter. It would kill your ears to take it apart. When I was cleaning and lubing a set of yoyos I just rubbed the axel with the residue on my fingers from handling lubed bearings. Fixed the squeaky issue. Has never came apart on its own.
Yknow, I feel like someone at some point should clarify something…
The bearing post fit doesn’t entirely depend on the machining and anodization.
It also depends on the cad. If you send in a cad that has a bearing post with a 8mm diameter, don’t be surprised when you try to shove a c size bearing on there and it doesn’t work. I reaaaaallly don’t think it’s the machine shops’ fault.
Yes and no. Any established brand is going to know the parameters for a bearing post. And any new company starting out im sure would work with the machine shops prior to the cad being put into production. These machine shops are putting out hundreds of yoyos im sure that they know the tolerance for the bearing post.
Just to give a slightly different made in USA perspective some might not think of. That also breaks from the OD vs FPM debate. (They are both great and make good stuff y’all are silly)
I work in an industry and in certain situations made in USA is a regulatory requirement. It’s annoying and not better quality just maybe a more secure supply chain to prevent certain risks from certain regions. (Honestly even then there are gaps when threat hunting but we won’t go there in this thread)
There are also some folk depending on what clearances they hold can’t interact with people directly from certain regions without risking there job or worse potentially. I imagine this is not US specific and every country has rules and regulations in place that create these same scenarios in certain jobs and industries in some cases probably in opposition to the US. For example I can’t work on some stuff in the UK as a US citizen.
Switching gears a tad:
Another thing that comes to mind as I’ve been a climate activist most of my adult life and the progress on that front is well… fleeting to say the least. Localization of production reduces greenhouse impacts. It’s not something that really comes up in yoyo often (or maybe I just don’t follow the right folks) a few brands/makers might use recycled material but it’s not like they are offsetting the shipping impacts across the Atlantic in any meaningful way and it’s not a cause I see put to the forefront often in this community which is fine margins are tight and it’s kind of absurd to expect a cause attached to a toy.
I also am a hypocrite and while accepting a paycheck that’s mostly funded by tax payer money in the end. I don’t like taxes and import fees so any time we can avoid more of those is great in my mind. (Without committing tax fraud of course)
Not to stir the pot more here but hoping we can shift from the nationalism and brand Stan a bit to a bit more of an interesting take on the made in USA subject. (Or y’all can meme whatever works)
Yeah, ITAR immediately comes to mind. I’m a software architect for a company in similarly sensitive industry. We have a number of embargoed countries that we actively block from all possible interaction.
But we’re talking about toys here, so… I imagine a One Drop yoyo costs significantly more in many other, if not all, countries outside the U.S. due to biased trading regulations and fees. Yet they are still at the top of their game. I suspect most of that has to do with the level of quality and consistency in their products.
So I’m curious about a point someone made earlier in this thread. How many of you here think that 1A competition yoyos are currently the predominant, highest selling, most produced yoyo, and that One Drop primarily make niche yoyos?
I don’t own any one drop products but I may buy the reboot. Before I buy it I’m trying to find good colors of all the side effects I can. Most I see are clashing with my style.
The Reboot is nice. I like an undersizedish yoyo tho. If you don’t like how it plays out of the box try swapping out the bearing for a CenterTrac or whatever you happen to like. It makes a huge difference, for me at least.
Look at the volumes of product YYF and C3 move that are competition oriented vs their “fun/casual” yoyos. Stuff like the Kapitals/Bastets will get one single run and just sit in stock while they sell through multiple runs of Shutters/Krowns/etc.
Go to a competition or a yoyo meetup, or heck even just look at social media and see what kids/serious players are playing and compare that to what OD is producing. Kids want to learn godspeed/DNA/meta combos, and they’re not asking their parents for OD yoyos any more to do that.
@SR1 was commenting how wild it was to be at US nationals this and realizing that outside of the forum/collector demographic which makes OD seem like the most popular and beloved company around, almost nobody at nats had any OD yoyos at all.
I think for most people playing yoyo, they don’t create a distinction between “fun” and “competition” yoyo. They just want a better performing yoyo for doing the current popular tricks, because that’s what they find fun, even if they’ll never compete.
No but you can just watch C3 and YYF sell through multiple regular runs of Krowns and Shutters while the casual/organic yoyos they produce only get a single run and sit in stock.
Gentry and YYF have stated they’ve sold over 100,000 yoyos in the Shutter line which an absolutely astronomical number of “competition” yoyos.
I imagine a One Drop yoyo costs significantly more in many other, if not all, countries outside the U.S. due to biased trading regulations and fees. Yet they are still at the top of their game. I suspect most of that has to do with the level of quality and consistency in their products.