Just got back from Club and I can finally say this :)

So without basing your opinion on smoothness, which one is better?

This is just me but I like the Yeti better. While the Rally is amazing the Yeti just plays so different from anything I’ve ever played, it was just a lot more enjoyable to me than the Rally. I don’t think either one is better, they are both amazing throws, I love the Rally too, it’s just about how your preferences fall.

Also the colored Yetis I tried were as smooth as the Rally I played. The black one I own though has a small vibe but only on grinds.

I have enough Yetis (for now), now I just have to wait for Neon Orange Rally’s.

Why does he need to base his opinion on something else? He has already stated his opinion and it sounds like you are trying to get him to reverse it by taking away HOW he formed his opinion.

Guys, let me be clear here. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to the Yeti and the Rally. Both are incredible players. In the past I have said that the Rally fits my play style better, that is in no way a slam on the Yeti. It is an amazing player and even at $55 for the colored Yetis it is worth the price. People keep trying to put a value on each of these yo-yos, stating that one is a better value than the other. Here are the facts:

Fact: Yes, you get more machining for your money when you pick up a Rally.
Fact: Both have an insane amount of man hours poured into them during assembly.
Fact: The Yeti uses a more “exotic” material to achieve the weight distribution.
Fact: The Rally uses more machined parts to achieve its weight distribution.
Fact: Both are made without having to outsource to China in order to achieve low costs.

Where in the facts does it say that one is a better value? Buy the one you are most interested in, if it does not fit the bill pick up the other one. You can buy both of these yo-yos, even if you opt for the colored Yeti, for less than the cost of most metals and end up with two completely different and unique yo-yos that allow for more variety when it comes to picking your throw of the day.

You mean Rally right? Seeing as how the Rally has the hubs and weight rings all machined from aluminum in-house then the body machined as well. Compared to the Yeti which is just molded by a third party company then sanded.

I might be wrong on this, but I do not think that this person is trying to change anyone’s mind or anything. I think what they are saying is that “smoothness” is not a quality of the yoyo that they find particularly important. If “smoothness” was important, then they would not need to ask the question in a way that implies it is not important. After all, what good is a crummy yoyo that is “smooth”?

In addition, I find your “facts” to not be facts at all. All of your “facts” are simply conjecture on your part. What is an “insane” amount of man-hours? There is not a single, supported fact I can detect in any of your points.

Furthermore, doesn’t OneDrop buy the plastic Rally haves from a company in New Jersey? Isn’t that outsourcing? How can the company in New Jersey make money if OneDrop is not paying more than the cost of production? Doesn’t the Rally take more machining than the Yeti?

I did in fact mean the Rally. Both the Rally and the Yeti are molded by third parties. The Rally gets an extra step when the halves arrive in shop and are zipped through the lathe to smooth out any inconsistencies.

Glad you can finally admit it.

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First of all, why ask someone to change the criteria of how THEY judge a yo-yo. If someone judges their yoyos on smoothness then that is what they find most important about it.

As for my facts, you got me. I mucked up and forgot to put “to China” when I was talking about outsourcing and I meant to say Rally instead of Yeti on the first fact, both have been fixed. As for the insane amount of hours, Chris has already spoken about how he and Charles hand sand the catch zones of all the yo-yos before matching up the halves for optimal smoothness and then test each before placing in a box. That isn’t a 10 second job.David and Shawn posted a video of all the work that goes into the production of a Rally, again not a 10 second job.

As for the rest being conjecture… how can you be so dense? The Yeti uses a glass filled polycarb to get the weight just right, that would be a more “exotic” material than standard plastic. The Rally uses machined parts to get the weight just right. I would say any idiot could see that but then again, you missed those points completely.

You’ve said yourself that a little vibe in a yoyo is not a bad thing, and sometimes you even say it gives it character. If he say, likes the play style of the yeti much more, is it correct to say that the rally is better because it’s smoother?

I’m not trying to make an argument here, just trying to clarify my point :slight_smile:

I am tired of ignoring your personal attacks. Personal attacks are the last bastion of those with nothing left to say. You, sir, have nothing to say but hyperbole, deception and outright lies.

Please, can you write another advertisement masquerading as a “review” for those manufacturers that ply you with free product? Or, will you damn a manufacturer that did not supply a yoyo when asked?

Simply shameful.

Escalation has arrived quickly…

I can almost cut the tension with a knife

Funny, you are the second person to baselessly accuse me of that. As I have said many times before,I never ask to keep the yoyos and most of my reviews are done with units that are returned to the manufacturer when I am finished. Then there are the yoyos I have to buy to review, like ALL of my CLYW reviews. CLYW generally does not send review units so I either trade or, in the case of my Yeti review, purchase them. If you would like to read reviews where have been critical of a yoyo go read my Capsule, Bandit, and Stealth Ogre reviews.

Now I have been trying to be nice to you but you in turn take that as a chance to attack. So where was my hyperbole here? Where are my lies? Where is my deception? As for the insults, you are correct I should have taken the high road on that. I am sorry I stooped to your level.

Another yoyogeezer/saintrobyn argument? ::slight_smile:
Geeze, even Rocky stopped fighting after 5 movies in a back alley brawl.
Or was it Rambo after 4 movies. I forget.

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just another tally mark in the book of why i Love (in a totally platonic way homie!) MikeEff. thanks for the proper perspective and the better lol!

It’s just a shame that we’ll never get to see Sly take up the part of Paul Kersey

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That would really be a death wish :wink:
Returning to the original focus of this thread, I have a Rally coming soon, mostly on the word of this thread. I’m really looking forward to it. At some point I hope to try a Yeti, but I was able to get the Rally for Black Friday for under $30, so that’s why I pulled the trigger on it. Ironically, I’ve never tried a Trigger, though.

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i own both and enjoy each for different reasons, i think each excel in different areas and play differently enough to keep different crowds happy for prolonged periods of time :slight_smile: but i am sure you’ll be very happy with the Rally it was my second official and real yoyo 8) .

All silliness aside, this is what I have been talking about the entire time. Both are excellent yoyos. They are cheap enough that instead of fighting over which is better you can easily purchase one of each and enjoy all the fun.

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Earlier I posted that the Rally and the Yeti have an insane amount of man hours poured into them during assembly and was called on it. For the Yeti, THIS is what I would consider an insane amount of man hours.

And for the Rally I would consider this an insane amount of hours.

Both videos are condensed quite a bit but show a glimpse of just how much work goes into making a “simple budget plastic” yoyo. Watching both shows that the process is anything but simple.

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I definitely agree that’s an insane amount of assembly time! Everyone wonders why there aren’t any yetis available stateside well there it is one guy or two guys running thousands of halves together to find a perfect pair and then all the minute details that go into assembly. Thanks SaintRobyn for posting the videos!

Lets be real, its the guys job, and assembly has to be the easiest part. If he put eight hours a day into assembling Yetis there would be a fair amount out there.
I think its silly there are so few around, when you think about the amount of time that has passed since they worked out the color situation. And absurd the price jumped up $15, especially considering they still have those terrible spacers.