General Yoyo Thoughts

I noticed myself starting to get trapped in the mentality that I wanted to avoid getting back into yo-yos, and that’s being focused on yo-yos instead of yoyoing. I got a little too indulgent in trying out new stuff after being out of the loop for so long.

So I’m putting a bunch of yo-yos away and focusing on one or two for 1A and 1 for 5A.

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@andy569 lol :laughing:

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I’ve done two orders recently from YYF and both times it took 2 days just to leave Chandler Arizona.

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Just a gripe about 888x, people try to sell them mint “never opened box” wanting retail $90 maybe. Yoyo 888x taken out but still mint they want $70+

But then at the same time we see ones like my Jason Lee 888.1 1 mark only sold for $60. 07 888 special editions, even mint $50-60 unless it’s like hobby or Steve brown ed.

The people with the 08-09 even 888.1s aren’t posting on BST bc they don’t think it will fetch anything at all, I personally have all the years technically (special editions ect) but it would be nice to get some 09 888s with only a few scratches for $25 shipped. 2008 first 888 release that has dings $10 w another purchase"

People should throw your 08-09 888s down. Also ask them what year has a buddy pay $110 thinking he got near mint original 07 ocho 8 ocho, they released in 09 w that ed, honestly I think $100 was retail so ask what year , also there’s an 09 stealth 888, there are a few more rereleases and the ocho looked diff old how he saw thatI

Post up and help, and if you have a mint w box 888x $40- $50 if never opened is way more fair to me.

I wanna see 07,08,09 888s come back k on BST.

Would love to get a Jason Lee 888 set. Mint isn’t needed. So let’s say a few scratches.

There are 3.

Darker Blue 2011: $60-70
Red w White Rims:2008: prob over a hundo. $120-150 for nm?

Black 2007 was actually a small bearing and it’s a “highwall 888” so being Small Bearing and Highwall I’m sure it’s like 57grams haha, my Augie Small Bearing weighs 58.5grams and not a highwall $200-300 mint?

They are kinda already gone to collectors. I’ll stick to my ILY Y collection (have 15 I think 10 candyblasted, I want that first the candy blasted yoyos, and of course the original first run E1ns mint or vnm, ) for a mint first run E1n s even when they were being sold I couldn’t get one for $150, 10 years ago.

Hoping I could trade $200-250 for a mint one.

Also most my ilyys traded around $50 value each most are mint.

I want a 2008 Wasabi, have the 2009 but seems funny smaller than 888 only 62grams.

Just a vent idk

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What are some of the more popular yo-yos among the higher level 5A players right now? It’d be interesting to see any common design trends among them, as up until now I’ve really just been focused on the trends in 1A design.

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Many top 3a yoyos are generally considered top 5a yoyos I think. Phaser, Anubis, Anomaly are the big 3 I would say. Maybe Ignition too. Back in the day the Palp was considered the Draupnir of 3a and 5a. Ignitions were extremely popular when they came out for 3a because they were considered a budget Palp.

If I was looking for the best I would imagine it’d be the Awoken Anubis for 3a and Anomaly for 5a so I’d probably pick up those(though this is just partially speculation too).

Hideo Ishida is sponsored by Hydrangea so he used something by them. Yoshihiro Abe placed 2nd with Yoshicuda. The Barracuda was a popular budget option for 3a and 5a. I think Sora Ishikawa used the Remaster Galaxy because its his sig but I wouldn’t consider that a top 5a choice.

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I get that a lot of the characteristics crossover between 3A and 5a yo-yos and I can pretty easily identify a good 5a throw but I’m more interested in what the current high level 5a players specifically are using.

Unfortunately they don’t tell you what people are using in videos for contests. Makes no sense because the goal of a signature yo-yo is to get people to buy it based on the player using it.

Edit: also one of the key areas that doesn’t cross over with 3A and 5A is width. I’m sure there’s a variety in what people are competing with in that regard but I’d be surprised if the 5A yoyos that are popular are as slim as the 3A stuff. I personally don’t want anything super wide for 5A but after using some modern stuff I don’t think I’d like anything much slimmer than ~44 mm.

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MA states has a dedicated 3a division. I really want to go but I wish I had someone to go with. A 10+ hour weekend trip by myself is kinda no bueno.

I don’t have classes Friday or Monday this semester though so I wouldn’t really be in a rush to come or leave which would be nice.

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I’ve come to the conclusion that the single color bimetal styling is the best aesthetic for a yo-yo, whether it’s an actual bimetal or just the styling on a monometal. It gives enough extra color to prevent it from being boring looking while avoiding looking gaudy or garish.

It’s just a super clean look overall.

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Copping those Sunrises tomorrow night, but also debating whether I should cop that Wangle WC edition birthday deal or the OG Shutter release that is available elsewhere. Not sure how often first run Shutters pop up on the BST otherwise.

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Sometimes I feel like my taste in yoyos is crap. I keep reading endless comments about how people have almost a spiritual connection with their preferred yoyo brand/style/shape/material/response method/etc, and I’m here liking almost every yoyo I see/try lol.

Anyone have ever felt the same?

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I have the same thoughts! There are a few exceptions that stand out a little from the others, but really I like basically everything for 1A. I have stronger opinions on fixed axle yoyos, though.

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I find it a little weird to be honest. It’s not like there are yo-yos where I wouldn’t play them if that’s what I had, but even among the yo-yos I own and like there are yo-yos I enjoy playing with more than others. I think there’s a big difference between enjoying playing with and liking a yo-yo versus being absolutely in love with one.

A good way to tell how much you like a yo-yo is whether or not you think it’s a waste of money to get a second one lol.

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Same.
Everytime someone says a yoyo has “soul” I just get confused lol.

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Ditto, I have liked almost everything I ever laid my hands on except

  • DV888, for obvious reasons, this thing is a crime against humanity, it is a bad yo-yo and it should feel bad
  • Nine Dragons, I appreciate that it’s nice to try something different but … uhhh mayyyyybe let’s try something else? I legit like the Overthrow!!
  • Old School Throws Resto, sorry man, I wanted to like this but such a narrow 1A style bimetal was like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, it just felt like someone had hacksawed off the sides of a proper yoyo and kinda ruined it

There’s a handful of others that I didn’t care for that I didn’t hate or anything, like the Offset Outlier, Sengoku Samurai … I eventually gave those away, I didn’t like them enough to keep, but I also didn’t hate them.

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Surprised by this with your love of the Deep State

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Yeah it’s completely different in play, radically different. :man_shrugging:

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I can’t help but feel that there is this consistent division between those that like yoyos based on pure performance (generalized as low walls) and those that like feel (generalized as organic shapes).

So then the performance camp thinks that those liking stuff for feel are playing with “bad” yoyos. It’s just weird to me. All the time there are comments with respect to certain yoyos being bad, implying that those that enjoy organic yoyos like “bad” yoyos.

Despite all the performance tweaks, the yoyo is essentially a primitive toy.

I argue that those that embrace the limitations of yoyos, by playing organic shapes or fixed axle or whatever, are appreciating the spirit of yoyo play being creation around limitations (you know, make the simple amazing and stuff).

Meanwhile, those in the performance camp are free to enjoy their performance but if we take the performance argument to the nth degree, why are you playing with such primitive technology - why not find some carbon fiber body with lead weight rings motorized spinning machine instead of playing with spinning rocks powered by humans?

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Um, tell me where to find one of those… (see, I think the question kinda answers itself).

Seriously though, to me high performance isn’t an end, it is merely a means. A tool to make learning and landing tricks easier. Longer spin times means I get more attempts at landing a trick per throw. More stability means more opportunities to successfully land a trick, and get the feel and motion of landing that trick embedded in muscle memory that much quicker, because the tendency to tilt off-axis is greatly reduced. Organics, for all their perceived merits by those who are already really good at yoyoing, work counter to my (current) goals, for the most part. Eventually I will enter the “cleaning up my technique” phase of development, and for that organics will become the more useful tool. Again, a means to an end, rather than an end unto itself.

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