Because those don’t exist yet?
And because this is not primitive technology. This is good engineering. It’s precision machined in a machines shop by trained machinists, tested, and improved with high performance bearings and pads.
I like organics, but I prefer playing with something stable because I can do better tricks with it. Why is that weird?
I have zero problem with your reasoning. In fact, I’m all for using the yoyo that gives you the enjoyment to keep throwing, whatever that type of yoyo might be, v-shape bimetal or whatever.
The division between the performance and organic camps is not the issue for me.
The issue for me is deriding other types of yoyos as being “bad” just because they aren’t performance-focused yoyos.
Again, like what you like, that’s not the issue for me. This is…
Fair enough.
However, I’m not quite sure what the point of the “taking the performance argument to the nth degree” exercise was, then.
Because if the point of new yoyo design should only be about performance (I’m playing devil’s advocate here), then why stop with the relatively limited abilities of what passes for cutting edge yoyo design (ultra low wall, bimetal, etc.) today?
I mean, what’s the issue with liking something that’s technically inferior? Just because something is objectively not as good from a technical perspective doesn’t mean people shouldn’t enjoy it. Harry Potter isn’t particularly great writing but that hasn’t stopped millions of people from reading it. They just aren’t claiming it’s some fantastic piece of literature.
I don’t see how other people criticizing a yo-yos performance that you enjoy makes it less enjoyable for you.
The problem i see is a lot of people confuse the idea of enjoying or liking something with quality.
And to answer your most recent question: Cost is a big limiting factor. Yoyo companies don’t have the budget of the Defense Department.
Well, it seems that recently I have had somewhat of a paradigm shift as far as yo-yo obsession goes.
I don’t really feel gripped by hype anymore, and I’m content with the the ones I have. They’re all fun, you know?
I think part of the discussion surrounding the obsession with brand shape and model had partially to do with the fact that some people do have strong preference, and it’s kind of fun to have playful “arguements” with users who don’t share your same sentiments.
It’s just banter, and sometimes it goes a little too far making any stance on preference seem ridiculous.
Cost to manufacture and marketplace acceptance are probably the largest factors dictating where yoyo designs go. Just as in most industries, the majority of makers prefer to slowly evolve design rather than try to push hard on the profoundly revolutionary. Revolutionary design is a good way to go out of business if that’s where you put all your resources.
But I’m still unclear how the forces that guide new yoyo design is connected with people deriding one type of yoyo or another. It seems like there are two completely different conversations being had there.
I would hardly consider highly precision machined aluminum with tolerances tighter than aerospace parts to be merely “primitive toys.” All modern metal yoyos are masterpieces of machining, engineering, and art.
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Your point is what exactly? Why don’t performance obsessed people continue to push yoyo design? They do, it doesn’t happen overnight dude.
If you have any ideas to make another significant jump in performance similar to what the Sleipnir or Draupnir did for yoyo while keeping costs under $250, I myself and I’m sure plenty of other companies would love to hear it
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this^ kind of answers what I’m thinking is your main thing, which is
Maybe not bad but objectively, organics, undersized, etc. just aren’t as good as full sized bimetal V’s. It’s kind of just facts. Yoyos have gotten better, “more good”, over the years, I don’t think anyone would deny that. And the general trend for that is larger, angular, lower walled, more rim weight, etc. That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy organics, etc. though. There’s nothing wrong with preferring organics over bimetals. Everyone has different tastes and how much you enjoy a yoyo and find it fun to use is more subjective and more unique to you. But objectively, bimetals are better. Yoyos haven’t just gradually been becoming larger, wider, lower walled, and more rim weighted for no reason. Are bimetals objectively more enjoyable and more fun to use though? No, absolutely not, and I don’t think anyone is arguing that.
People have responded to you and you just didn’t like their answers.
Some yo-yos are objectively worse from a performance perspective. Doesn’t mean they might not be as fun or more fun to use.
Yo-yos aren’t made of more extreme materials because of cost constraints. And they are being constantly improved. Yo-yos are so much better now than even 10 years ago.
Seems like everything was covered, I’m not sure what your objective here was.
Hey, that’s my meme! I think this is the first time someone has reposted one of my memes, that I’m aware of…
This is some wisdom here! It seems we sometimes forget that we are talking about toys, sometimes expensive, exotic and incredibly engineered and machined toys. I also try to remember to enjoy all of my yoyos, and, when I notice I have some that just aren’t leaving the case enough for my comfort, I try to sell them to someone else to enjoy.
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Go to their profile click on the thing that says “normal” and change it to ignore. I just did it myself.
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O shaped yo-yos have better regen and stall performance 
