i love the
dazzler too.
doombot for bimetal ti - it’s its own animal but deserves a mention.
tivayder best for the buck (for now). i’m
on my third and this one i won’t let go
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So far the best titanium I’ve thrown is the Udon bowl 
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I have the Magnum.
Me too!
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The Magnum is make out of Magnesium
Not Titanium🐥
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Now I want a walker, seems like an amazing throw.
You have excellent taste Sir!
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Get a TiVayder and save $500 
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I’ll spend the extra 500 if I love the yoyo. When I die… I won’t be taking any of my money to the grave haha
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I know I realized that after the reply.
Sorry guys- OT.
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I have 6 TiVayders, 2 TiWalkers and 2 D-Runners.
TiVayders the best in my personal opinion.
Common logic would dictate that Ti Walkers aren’t expensive because they’re better. They’re more expensive because they’re harder to get.
TiVayders are less expensive, easier to get and play better.
I guess it’s all just where your heads at.
When I was a kid if you had holes in the knees of your Levi’s people would hand you money and ask you if you were hungry?
Now if you go out walking around with the holes in the knees of your Levi’s people ask you for money and tell you they’re hungry.
PS… when I wrote the post Cotton responded to, I did not yet have a Ti Vayder.
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I have owned a ti vayder and a 3yo3 Ti5
And honestly?
The Ti5 takes the cake for me, I LOVE the way it moves, it feels so encouraging and fast without feeling out of control at all, can hit any trick on it 100% of the time, and have a blast doing it!
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While your opinion is much respected due to the sheer size of your collection; I find the Ti-Walker better throw than the Ti-Vayder. To me, the Vayder has too much heft and does not have the sweet float that the Ti-Walker has. in my limited experience, the only other throw that possesses the same ‘perfect’ ratio of performance and float is the Draupnir.
No disrespect to the Vayder. I am only comparing it to the original. On its own; the Vayder is beast.
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All my ti throws are special in there own way.
I will grade my ti throws since they are the ones I know here they are.
1st - Oxygene ti early 2009 release
2nd - Luftverk Ultima
3rd - RSO OG MechaBapezilla
4th - RSO Gravity
5th - Ti Silver Bullet
6th - YYF ti 888
The one I am missing that I would like to add to my collection is YoYoRecreation Fireworks
I have alway been hunting for one but no luck.
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My understanding is that the TiVayder is essentially as near a carbon-copy of the TiWalker as it can get (with only some very minor changes, maybe at the bearing seat or gap, I don’t remember exactly).
The perception of how a yoyo plays is very subjective, and I’m not sure that I would be able to tell the difference between the two in a blinded test. I feel like some other variable would have more of an effect (i.e. string, string length, bearing) than the actual shape of the yoyos.
That’s not to say that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. I just find it impressive that you can. I have not played a TiWalker, so I can’t weigh in unfortunately.
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My two cents on this might be worth a penny and a half…. But, I think this is worth considering.
When Jeff decided to design and produce a ‘more affordable’ Ti yo-yo, he recruited Heath to help make it happen.
One of the primary aspects of the yo-yo besides a ‘lower price’ was that the yo-yo play ‘even better’ than the Original Ti-Walker.
Who, better to potentially distinguish what proto would establish at least a slightly higher performance benchmark than the OG Heath…?
Once the yo-yo CAD went to the Machine shop for production of a pretty large order(by ti yo standards), it must have been the general consensus that they achieved an even better playing yo-yo.
I am not saying that my opinion is correct. And I am not suggesting Yoyogeezers’ opinion is incorrect.
What I am suggesting is that(hypothetically) if every single person that owns a Ti Walker and a Vayder, jumped in to this thread and stated they feel the Walker is a better playing yo-yo than the Vayder>>>
Then that would mean Heath can’t even tell the performance differences of his own designs…. And Jeff made 500 yo-yos that don’t play as well as the yo-yo they were designed to top.
Most interesting indeed🤔
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any Ti made in America?
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Possibly hip replacements.
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Love my e1nstien!
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I believe a video exist that goes into detail over the ti Walker ti Vader with the most knowledgeable principals involved with explanations on the intent of both throws. I have seen it posted on the forum.
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Ti Triton Proto. Not close.
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