Chinese throws...

[Randysavage]

@AngryGumball

I’ve tried a Fraxel and agree, it is very noisy! Sounds kind of cool but I can see where it can get annoying pretty quick. I’ve also ‘squeezed’ the stacks and got the yoyo to slow down to a stop…which is impossible to do on a YYF since it just keeps spinning!

Only yyf I have ever used with stacks is the PGM and I could stop that one by pinching it. But I have not thrown a metal with stacks on it made by them yet

[Randysavage]

@Zzz

So is the AODA sunshine a throw or no throw? Cuz I was gonna get one but this made me rethink. Or would you recommend the qi xiu one? And if so where can I get it it’s not on here.

I would recommend the Qixia as well. They are way different shapes. The quixia does come with a concave 10 ball tho and its a V shape so its ok for horizontal play. Then the sunshine is like a gm or pgm with the shape. I have the upgraded silver edition and it does not finger grind well. more friction than you would expect. The quixia grinds ok. I like them both but if i had to choose for you id say the qixia since if you dont like it you at least have yourself a 10 ball concave lol. Im using mine in my clyw glacier express and its nice! The weight on it is heavy but I personally like heavy throws. It really feels nice. But so does the Aoda. Just don’t get the fraxel lol.

[daniel0731ex]

Don’t buy the Ultimate Soldier or Nuclear Element, they’re one of the worse throws that QiXia has. You’re better off getting the YoSoul or YoDance.

The Aoda Sunshine is no good. Aoda has many other throws that are way better than that.

[daniel0731ex]

@Randysavage

On another note I found this

The average price of Titanium on the mid 2011 market was $43 per pound(9 cents a gram).
99.9% pure titanium was $6 a gram. and scrap titanium was going for 5 dollars a pound(about 1 cent per gram). Now factor in the grade used and I would imagine it was made from recycled scrap and then the other metals added in to make it a alloy. Adding all that in its way under 1 cent per gram. Now to pay the workers for making it, well that could be anywhere depending on the company. But most factory workers in china have bad income and some do not get paid at all only a place to sleep and food. The throw is 78 grams so 78 grams of just scrap titanium would be 78 cents. But this is not titanium, its titanium ally(or so it says) so it would be even cheaper for the material. Basically the only money i see in it is they pay to workers for working with a hard to use high melting point metal. But once its a alloy it would be a lot easier to work with and if it was mixed very light with titanium it would be very easy to work with

What is this I don’t even…

:facepalm:

[Randysavage]

@daniel0731ex

@Randysavage

On another note I found this

The average price of Titanium on the mid 2011 market was $43 per pound(9 cents a gram).
99.9% pure titanium was $6 a gram. and scrap titanium was going for 5 dollars a pound(about 1 cent per gram). Now factor in the grade used and I would imagine it was made from recycled scrap and then the other metals added in to make it a alloy. Adding all that in its way under 1 cent per gram. Now to pay the workers for making it, well that could be anywhere depending on the company. But most factory workers in china have bad income and some do not get paid at all only a place to sleep and food. The throw is 78 grams so 78 grams of just scrap titanium would be 78 cents. But this is not titanium, its titanium ally(or so it says) so it would be even cheaper for the material. Basically the only money i see in it is they pay to workers for working with a hard to use high melting point metal. But once its a alloy it would be a lot easier to work with and if it was mixed very light with titanium it would be very easy to work with

What is this I don’t even…

:facepalm:

That is the mid 2011 market post of titanium prices

[Randysavage]

@daniel0731ex

Don’t buy the Ultimate Soldier or Nuclear Element, they’re one of the worse throws that QiXia has. You’re better off getting the YoSoul or YoDance.

The Aoda Sunshine is no good. Aoda has many other throws that are way better than that.

Do you even own one or thrown one for more than an hour? You are the first person I have ever herd who says that both are bad. I have really nice throws and very cheap throws and I am comparing a $15 throw with a $165 throw and saying that the Ultimate Soldiers is not a bad throw I fell and well worth the price. I am using the bearing from the qixia in my clyw right now due to the fact I feel its better and I would have spent about 15 dollars on a 10 ball center trac with shipping anyway.

[frodoslair]

I’ve played a ton of Aodas, the quality is generally very good.

Sunshine is a fantastic yoyo (if you like the specs), just take the stacks off (they’ll probably fall off anyway). Apart from the stacks though, I’ve been quite impressed with all the Aodas I’ve thrown.

Chinese bearings also play fantastic. They seem to tarnish (lose their shiny colour) quite quickly, but honestly play better than any other bearings I’ve tried.

[Randysavage]

@frodoslair

I’ve played a ton of Aodas, the quality is generally very good.

Sunshine is a fantastic yoyo (if you like the specs), just take the stacks off (they’ll probably fall off anyway). Apart from the stacks though, I’ve been quite impressed with all the Aodas I’ve thrown.

Chinese bearings also play fantastic. They seem to tarnish (lose their shiny colour) quite quickly, but honestly play better than any other bearings I’ve tried.

I took the stacks of the Fraxel, I like it much better now. Also put the clear silicone response pads it came with in it and now I don’t even have an issue with it. Im happy with the Aoda’s for sure!

[daniel0731ex]

@Randysavage

@daniel0731ex

Don’t buy the Ultimate Soldier or Nuclear Element, they’re one of the worse throws that QiXia has. You’re better off getting the YoSoul or YoDance.

The Aoda Sunshine is no good. Aoda has many other throws that are way better than that.

Do you even own one or thrown one for more than an hour? You are the first person I have ever herd who says that both are bad. I have really nice throws and very cheap throws and I am comparing a $15 throw with a $165 throw and saying that the Ultimate Soldiers is not a bad throw I fell and well worth the price. I am using the bearing from the qixia in my clyw right now due to the fact I feel its better and I would have spent about 15 dollars on a 10 ball center trac with shipping anyway.

I bet you’ve never thrown any Chinese throws besides the three crappy ones that you got. QiXia make excellent throws like the YoSoul and YoDance, but the Nuclear Element or Ultimate Soldier are one of their worse ones.

[Randysavage]

@daniel0731ex

@Randysavage

@daniel0731ex

Don’t buy the Ultimate Soldier or Nuclear Element, they’re one of the worse throws that QiXia has. You’re better off getting the YoSoul or YoDance.

The Aoda Sunshine is no good. Aoda has many other throws that are way better than that.

Do you even own one or thrown one for more than an hour? You are the first person I have ever herd who says that both are bad. I have really nice throws and very cheap throws and I am comparing a $15 throw with a $165 throw and saying that the Ultimate Soldiers is not a bad throw I fell and well worth the price. I am using the bearing from the qixia in my clyw right now due to the fact I feel its better and I would have spent about 15 dollars on a 10 ball center trac with shipping anyway.

I bet you’ve never thrown any Chinese throws besides the three crappy ones that you got. QiXia make excellent throws like the YoSoul and YoDance, but the Nuclear Element or Ultimate Soldier are one of their worse ones.

Ok well this is my review and I disagree. You didn’t even answer my question on if you have ever owned or played with one for longer than an hour. If you don’t have anything constructive to say other than they are bad without giving any reason then their is no point in you even commenting on this review. To say Americans are ignorant and leave a half brained comment saying that something is bad with no reason is quite immature and ignorant. How dare you say these 3 throws are crappy. You are right I do only own these 3 chinese throws and I am comparing them to my clyw and supernova on play. You are saying that the yo soul is better than the Nuclear Element and Ultimate Soldier and they are crappy. Since I am comparing them to a supernova and you are comparing them to the knockoff of the supernova then who has the better quality throw to compare too. The yo soul costs $1.70 cents more than my two. The most is $4.00 on other sites. So if my throws are so crappy what makes the soul so great at $1-4 dollars more. You did not even say why the soul was better. If you cant start coming up with reasons on why you think the way you do then maybe you should keep it to yourself so others can learn and make up their own mind rather than listen to negative comments with no thought process.

[daniel0731ex]

@Randysavage

@daniel0731ex

@Randysavage

@daniel0731ex

Don’t buy the Ultimate Soldier or Nuclear Element, they’re one of the worse throws that QiXia has. You’re better off getting the YoSoul or YoDance.

The Aoda Sunshine is no good. Aoda has many other throws that are way better than that.

Do you even own one or thrown one for more than an hour? You are the first person I have ever herd who says that both are bad. I have really nice throws and very cheap throws and I am comparing a $15 throw with a $165 throw and saying that the Ultimate Soldiers is not a bad throw I fell and well worth the price. I am using the bearing from the qixia in my clyw right now due to the fact I feel its better and I would have spent about 15 dollars on a 10 ball center trac with shipping anyway.

I bet you’ve never thrown any Chinese throws besides the three crappy ones that you got. QiXia make excellent throws like the YoSoul and YoDance, but the Nuclear Element or Ultimate Soldier are one of their worse ones.

Ok well this is my review and I disagree. You didn’t even answer my question on if you have ever owned or played with one for longer than an hour. If you don’t have anything constructive to say other than they are bad without giving any reason then their is no point in you even commenting on this review. To say Americans are ignorant and leave a half brained comment saying that something is bad with no reason is quite immature and ignorant. How dare you say these 3 throws are crappy. You are right I do only own these 3 chinese throws and I am comparing them to my clyw and supernova on play. You are saying that the yo soul is better than the Nuclear Element and Ultimate Soldier and they are crappy. Since I am comparing them to a supernova and you are comparing them to the knockoff of the supernova then who has the better quality throw to compare too. The yo soul costs $1.70 cents more than my two. The most is $4.00 on other sites. So if my throws are so crappy what makes the soul so great at $1-4 dollars more. You did not even say why the soul was better. If you cant start coming up with reasons on why you think the way you do then maybe you should keep it to yourself so others can learn and make up their own mind rather than listen to negative comments with no thought process.

Blablabla wall of text blablabla thought process blablabla critical thinking.

The logic in this post:

@Randysavage

On another note I found this

The average price of Titanium on the mid 2011 market was $43 per pound(9 cents a gram).
99.9% pure titanium was $6 a gram. and scrap titanium was going for 5 dollars a pound(about 1 cent per gram). Now factor in the grade used and I would imagine it was made from recycled scrap and then the other metals added in to make it a alloy. Adding all that in its way under 1 cent per gram. Now to pay the workers for making it, well that could be anywhere depending on the company. But most factory workers in china have bad income and some do not get paid at all only a place to sleep and food. The throw is 78 grams so 78 grams of just scrap titanium would be 78 cents. But this is not titanium, its titanium ally(or so it says) so it would be even cheaper for the material. Basically the only money i see in it is they pay to workers for working with a hard to use high melting point metal. But once its a alloy it would be a lot easier to work with and if it was mixed very light with titanium it would be very easy to work with

Is the same as that of:

Titanium is stronger than steel so you can use less of it to save money.

And you bet I’ve tried a bunch of QiXia throws besides numerous other Chinese metals.

The Nuclear Element: it’s a 888 copy. With high walls. And less rim weight.
The Ultimate Soldier too heavy, and not much of it is actually at the rims.

I’d recommend any QiXia yoyo that doesn’t have hubstacks, namely YoSoul, YoDance, and YoKe. The Champion is also very good.

[daniel0731ex]

duplicate post.

[Randysavage]

Thank you for giving a reason. And you know what The Soldiers is really heavy your absolutely right. I prefer a throw to weigh 64-72 grams but that just me. And I have no knowledge of the Element but yes it does look like a 888. Thanks again for giving your reasons on why you think its bad and clearing that up

[yoyospirit]

I like heavy yoyos though… But just because you don’t like heavy yoyos doesn’t mean the yoyo itself is bad. The Dark Magic is heavy, but it’s also one of the most popular yoyos out there. And the Yo Soul is a Supernova Lite bootleg, and the Yo Dance is a Turning Point bootleg.

[daniel0731ex]

@yoyospirit

I like heavy yoyos though… But just because you don’t like heavy yoyos doesn’t mean the yoyo itself is bad. The Dark Magic is heavy, but it’s also one of the most popular yoyos out there.

@daniel0731ex

The Ultimate Soldier too heavy, and not much of it is actually at the rims.

And the Yo Soul is a Supernova Lite bootleg, and the Yo Dance is a Turning Point bootleg.

http://bearsharkaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/you-dont-say.jpg

[yoyospirit]

@daniel0731ex

@yoyospirit

I like heavy yoyos though… But just because you don’t like heavy yoyos doesn’t mean the yoyo itself is bad. The Dark Magic is heavy, but it’s also one of the most popular yoyos out there.

@daniel0731ex

The Ultimate Soldier too heavy, and not much of it is actually at the rims.

And the Yo Soul is a Supernova Lite bootleg, and the Yo Dance is a Turning Point bootleg.

http://bearsharkaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/you-dont-say.jpg

Really?

[irdaprez]

@daniel0731ex

Ignorance. Ignorance everywhere.

Typical of Americans.

@daniel0731ex

@yoyospirit

I like heavy yoyos though… But just because you don’t like heavy yoyos doesn’t mean the yoyo itself is bad. The Dark Magic is heavy, but it’s also one of the most popular yoyos out there.

@daniel0731ex

The Ultimate Soldier too heavy, and not much of it is actually at the rims.

And the Yo Soul is a Supernova Lite bootleg, and the Yo Dance is a Turning Point bootleg.

http://bearsharkaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/you-dont-say.jpg

[yoyospirit]

@irdaprez

@daniel0731ex

Ignorance. Ignorance everywhere.

Typical of Americans.

@daniel0731ex

@yoyospirit

I like heavy yoyos though… But just because you don’t like heavy yoyos doesn’t mean the yoyo itself is bad. The Dark Magic is heavy, but it’s also one of the most popular yoyos out there.

@daniel0731ex

The Ultimate Soldier too heavy, and not much of it is actually at the rims.

And the Yo Soul is a Supernova Lite bootleg, and the Yo Dance is a Turning Point bootleg.

http://bearsharkaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/you-dont-say.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vbNH_58qXIw/TkycUbhiOUI/AAAAAAAAPrQ/48oOfj0J23A/s1600/troll+spray.jpg

He’s not a troll, he’s just an idiot who doesn’t know anything

[daniel0731ex]

@yoyospirit

He’s not a troll, he’s just an idiot who doesn’t know anything

QiXia yoyo are knockoffs! How smart of you for realizing that! Also the way that you completely misread my post was such an impeccable demonstration of intellectual superiority!

BTW half of the people here probably don’t know what the word “bootleg” actually means.

(Did I mention that the QiXia Champion is a knockoff too?)

[yoyospirit]

@daniel0731ex

@yoyospirit

He’s not a troll, he’s just an idiot who doesn’t know anything

QiXia yoyo are knockoffs! How smart of you for realizing that! Also the way that you completely misread my post was such an impeccable demonstration of intellectual superiority!

BTW half of the people here probably don’t know what the word “bootleg” actually means.

(Did I mention that the QiXia Champion is a knockoff too?)

I didn’t “misread”, I just assumed you were too dense to think the Qixia yoyos are bootlegs.