Hi,
I’m researching about YYR Almighty, Nir, MN Autoscopy, Chobi Gorilla and Monotone.
I just discovered YoyoRecreation and I wonder if are those (still?) made in Japan?
Good question. It’s too bad YYE doesn’t include country of manufacture in their listings anymore.
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YYR are now made in China or by Onedrop. Those are all China.
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That is disappointing. Is there any case, resource or topic that reveal this?
It’s been known for a while now, can’t remember what the first model was to be Manufactured in CN, if i had to guess inevitable? But they’re all just as good as when they were Manufactured in JP.
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Thank you all guys, I’m new in this forum but I get answers quickly and everybody tries to help. I love that forum culture is still alive.
And @Herelieslewi I’ll still definitely get some of those in my list.
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I’m not sure, but their yoyos were a lot more expensive when they were made in Japan, similar to their made in Oregon line.
If you want a new yoyo that was made in Japan there’s the Japan Technology FgAl.
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Were they really? The bimetals are currently about $170-205. I don’t remember them being more than that.
If we use Sleipnir as our reference point, it went from $160 to $94 USD, which if we factor inflation means it costs less than half of what it used to.
On their site most of the bimetals are $150, I’m not sure why YYE has higher prices.
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If you are looking to buy some older yyr made in Japan there is a seller here @YOYOJAMizm
they are not the ones you have listed but they are excellent examples of earlier YYR
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I agree that $150 is close to what companies from other Asian countries are charging these days.
Before I create this post, I tried to reach Yoyorecreation from several platforms. And now I have some answers.
They responded me with:
“We apologize, but we do not disclose the place of manufacture for our products. Please feel free to contact us for any other questions.”
and I told them, they do actually disclose the place of manufacture when they done it in “Oregon” 
Yes, that means China.
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I once reached out to them to enquire about the aluminium grade for specific throws and they do not want to disclose that either
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Unless if you look at spinkults material reference for yyr models
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I’m unsure if I’m missing some sarcasm in here, but the FYFO, SYFO, GOPA, KNOK, and CS61 are all machined by One Drop.
Outside of those models they’re all machined in China now, with the single exception of one run of the Blur Autoscopy. Most of the Blurs are Chinese manufactured, but there is one specific run they did through OD. (It’s clear color, explicitly stated Oregon-made, and pyramatte finish).
This isn’t just listening to the marketing, across my friends we own all of them and they are very obviously made by OD from pyramatte finish to the lose bearing posts.
Chinese manufacturing is good, but I’m all over the OD produced YYRs because I love pyramatte.
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Nah ye being smart with YYR, sarcastically saying “how can you say you don’t disclose where your yoyos are manufactured, but when its onedrop you disclose its manufactured in the US”
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At least in my mind this question kinda carries a good bit of nuance, that a lot of people seemingly don’t care about. Mostly just because country (or state) doesn’t explicitly state where stuff was machined.
But people don’t really care about the difference between yoyolab, yoyoformula, or the countless machine shops that don’t specialize in yoyos, but are actively making them for some smaller brands. Some shops can make amazing stuff, others make yoyo-shaped metallic waste.
US-machined doesn’t indicate quality, but because US-machined yoyos are synonymous with One Drop at this point, people conflate the two and assume all US-machined yoyos are good because OD-machined yoyos are good.
When Hydrangea machined at a shop in Japan and all of their yoyos shipped with vibe, people complained that they were overpriced and poorly machined. Now that they machine at an unspecified shop in China, they’re smooth out of the box and half the price. But people now complain and say that they were better when they were made in Japan.
This isn’t really about yoyorec, because I’m not trying to bat for them. More just saying that answering questions like this from random people online is mostly a lose-lose scenario for them. It’s easier and safer to just say nothing.
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Total closure, yes. Half-closure, no.
From iPhones to graphics cards, many things we use every day are manufactured in China. In most cases, brands are still open about where something was designed and where it was manufactured. And despite that, companies can still make excellent products.
As the “random person online” who asked the question: I don’t own a huge number of yo-yos, but the majority of the ones I do own are Chinese-made. I also have some older American-made yo-yos in my collection.
I was simply researching because I wanted to experience and add a Japanese-machined yo-yo to my collection. I was trying to understand whether some of the yo-yos I liked actually matched that filter or not.
Privacy and hypocrisy are not the same thing. If you market a relatively high-priced product around Oregon, but then refuse to answer even a direct question about where other models are manufactured, especially when the answers you do give seem inconsistent, that reflects poorly on you.
That is the issue here.
I imagine some of the interest comes when a company moves production from Japan or the US to China and the pricing remains higher than many, if not most high quality, Chinese made throws. I think it’s fair to conclude that manufacturing costs will be lower in China. It’s also fair for a company to increase profits, when given an opportunity. I don’t have any Japanese made yoyos to compare, but the Chinese made ones, that I own, are very well made, in my opinion. So, I guess the question is, are these throws still worth the money?
Made in China doesn’t tell me anything about quality, I’m impressed by some brands and disappointed by others.
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