I am merely trying to encourage people to avoid using the term stealing because of the legal implications that word carries, when in fact there are no legal protections being violated in this case.
A lot of folks are so enraged by design knock-offs–and not just in the yoyo community–that they use trigger words imbued with legal weight in order to induce as much shame into the dialogue as they can. I’m sure that feels like a worthy tactic to those who are enraged, but I just find it distasteful and unnecessarily inflammatory.
Agreed. I hate to gunk up this thread, but I thought a few things should be cleared up (such as respecting original yoyo designs) before we continued. Since this is the 2nd time this happened to Heath, it seems clear to me that people don’t properly understand.
I do think it is design stealing though. How else can you word it without acknowledging that the design was blatantly copied without permission of the original designer? You may think im making it unnecessarily inflammatory, but I think you are unnecessarily trivializing it. Why should you be able to steal someone elses design just because there are no clear legal ramifications?
That said, im definitely excited for this and can’t wait to see it come to fruition!
Some on topic points I agree with:
-Hand/glove like the one just recently posted by @iamkeeler
-Floating yoyo
-Red string, or perhaps just a red lightsaber looking font for “Ti-Vayder” if it is to be featured in the logo
I really don’t want to further hijack this topic with a philosophical debate, especially since the original designer has joined the project, depleting this tangent of all relevance. Can we just move on, please?
From personal experience, I know that moving on from a debate is easier said than done
As we can see here
I haven’t really joined in because I know this is a lot more touchy and closer to personal morals and fundamental beliefs than “flat bearings suck” so what I would say won’t change anything about what people think, for most their minds are already dead set on issues like these. So no point in rambling about my thoughts Same with politics and religion
We should have him hopping it up with the string around his finger like we see people do for their yo-yos. But there should be an indication that he’s using the force
It’s called fair use.
An artist, Richard Prince was re-appropriating Marlboro ads, making MILLIONS selling blown-up cropped Marlboro ads in a fine art context. Marlboro took him to court and he ended up winning due to “fair use”
Not that art has to do with yoyos (or does it?) but I’m just bringing this up for conversations sake! Since music sampling was compared to this, I figured it wasn’t too out of left field.
The second something popular comes out, despite it having a trademark, copyright, patent - there has always been a competitive nature within capitalism to “steal” or “copy” - there would be no Pepsi without Coca Cola!!
Edit: I’m late to the party but I’m keeping my 2cents here anyways
I think it looks more dramatic and imposing if the hand is posed with a claw-like, open “death grip”. That last one the hand looks a little too relaxed.
Same with politics and religion
