Hmm, that’s strange. I worked with the Rec Rev titanium yoyo, but couldn’t even come close to what I would get on an aluminum yoyo. I might give Never Dull a shot.
Titanium, or any other metals, are normally combined with other metals to create specific alloys. Gold for example is never used in its pure form because it’s too soft therefore it’s combined with other metals to create a mixture with greater resistance, tensile strength, or in your case, different appearance.
Anyways, I have a question for ricochet owners. How well does it take sparking? I’m planning on sparking mine but after seeing Sanchez202’s spark marks(page 3), I’m starting to have second thoughts.
Just going off of the other titaniums I have used, the raw Ricochet will take the sparking a lot better than the anodized. You can polish the raw back to almost new leaving just the faintest scratches after a light bit of sparking. As with anything the more you spark the more prominent the markings afterwards.
I knew you’d rear your head again. So let me correct you once again. In this thread, everyone expressed their opinions already, and the thread got back on track and back on topic too. That is the point you don’t seem to be getting. All that happened prior just recently in this thread, happened long ago when a thread scrubbing took place. Everyone voiced their opinions long ago. So, don’t pop in here like you are aware, and try to bring up old threads that you had practically nothing to say in. You let someone else do all the talking in that thread too, and you just hit the “thank you” button or quoted with a “lol.” I haven’t forgotten. Now, you want to start drama off topic yourself. As you can see, I’m not going anywhere, so if you have something to say I’ll “preach” that you can say it. I’ll also say what I have to say too, because I’m not going anywhere.
You also don’t seem to get the point that Ben is in his own thread, posting about his own yo-yo. Anyone else is ruining the conversation with off topic banter. Also, I’m not sure if you have trouble with reading, and you must, because I never said what anyone “can” or “cannot” do. In fact, I gave my opinion about what I think “should” be. That is the difference. So my preaching is as consistent here as it has been anywhere else. Read before you post. And, next time type more than three lines…it might make a lot better sense. How many times did I use “should” in that quote? There you have it.
You’re a troll, because you said nothing at all about the Ricochet…and popped out of nowhere to say that garbage. I’m glad to know you’re still not over the Egyptian kid thread. I’m not the one who had that locked.
Looks like the sale is over…I hope you guys bought a Ricochet…cause I did. 
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Haha this thread. This thread.
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Not that often you get to have a chat with the guy who made a good yo-yo. Especially, if you’re one of the people who actually bought one and you want to discuss it. What a shame indeed. Well, I’m in here for the long haul…so I might as well continue to talk to Reefyo. This thread went down hill pages ago anyway.
You guys are so cute when you bicker!
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I wonder if anyone has tried to stack theirs yet?
No I don’t want you to cut your own up. I was hoping you had a factory reject lying around you could cut up to change my mind and show me why I should be interested. You could probably maKe a more interesting Ti and charge anything you nedded to to make it profitable and it would probably still sell. So I’m unclear as to why you’re not planning to make more
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Can I chalk this up as a win then, since nobody else wants it? I mean the dude wouldn’t even answer my simple request directly above his last post ever…
No. The Ricochet is selling, thanks to you guys. Ben left, to laugh all the way to the bank.
Are you getting some kickbacks from yyf?
Ben left ensuring I wouldn’t buy another one of his throws. His condescending attitude towards his customers is appauling.
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No. I don’t really do kickbacks. I just speak my mind one way or the other. I don’t think Ben is condescending JetEye. I have read the forum for the past year and a half, and correct me if I missed something that happened prior. But, a lot of people on the forum seem to have the attitude that because Ben sells a lot of throws, he should bend over backward, comply with evey request no matter how unreasonable, and do everything short of kiss their feet. Maybe that too. But, for me personally, these people conducting business owe you nothing but a good product and descent customer service in the event of some rare occurrence it might be necessary. I tend to prefer doing business with Type A personalities. If a person shows up to sell me something, I don’t need them to be personable, do everything I say or anything like that. I just need them to do their job and do it well. I, personally, think Ben’s attitude matches the way he is treated in many instances. He is human and I admire his courage to stick up for himself and put his foot down. It just seems a lot of people like to have power and control tug of wars with Ben. Ben sells to a community of people far beyond the people who read the forum, or even use the internet at all. So, nothing said on here will keep him from selling his yo-yos. If you choose not to buy YoyoFactory because of Ben’s online persona, I think it is your loss. I just don’t see the benefit of a decision that has nothing to do with his products or his dealing with a product issue after you bought something. Usually, if I don’t like someone, I stay out of their way, unless they bring drama my way first. Then, in that case, they get what they deserve. I buy Yoyofactory, and have over 25 of their yo-yos, but still don’t think Ben owes me anything but a good product and good customer service. I can ask Ben to post a video of himself doing a handstand with a yo-yo, but other than trying to feel in “control” there is no reason to make that request and expect him to comply. For every person who no longer buys YoyoFactory, he will gain one. I can say that the probably $2000 I spent on Yoyofactory is worth nothing in the grand scheme of things. And, after spending that, I don’t feel like I bought Ben as a puppet on a string. I like YoyoFactory more because of this thread, and his willingness to just say “no,” when he should. I like it when people stick up for themselves. That is kickback enough for someone like me.
All your favorite yo-yo manufacturers should take marketing notes from YoyofactoryBen:
From what I see Ben is not “sticking up” for himself
He was asked if there was a B grade lying around that he could cut.
All he needed to say was no, but he decided to take it personally.
And the sad thing is him loosing one customer won’t make a difference at all and he can therefore get away with mis-treating a potential customer.
He definitely said a clear and convincing “No.” At least that’s what I read. Especially if he has said “no” more than once, then if he has to repeat himself, he has every right to say no in various different ways.
If you don’t understand “no,” the first time, it might be repeated in such a way that you’d get the message and stop asking the same thing over and over again. I have no problem with his responses. He could have gotten extremely nasty, or ignored them, but he did neither. I don’t like repeating myself either, but depending on your audience, you may need to say it a few different ways.
Part of the game becomes, when he says “no,” when the request is not granted, instead of having a problem with the “no,” people will find a brand new problem, and take issue with the way he said “no.” I’ve seen this in life too many times before. Now it becomes, “yeah, he had a right to say no…but I don’t like the way he said it.” :
But, you’re right, he may lose a customer. But, for every one he loses, he gains one too.
I see manufacturers on the forum pop on here and chat with you only when they have a new release to promote, or not ever. But, Ben who gets on here now and then regardless, and actually digests some suggestions from people, gets picked on for his personality. Some of your favorite manufacturers show no personality to you at all…barely give you the time of day on the forum. Then, when they do, honestly in those rare moments, I’ve seen some personalities I don’t care for that much either. They type a three word answer to you you…maybe…then disappear. At least with Ben, he will school you guys, drop some knowledge on you about yo-yo history. I’ve seen Ben come on here and drop knowledge in a thread, and shut the whole thread up. I have greater respect for smart people than nice people. Nice is often a facade anyway. It’s too hard to fake smart. Ben knows his business, and he shows his thanks by giving you some great deals and introducing you the next great release. He owes us no more than that.
Every time you hear something you don’t want to hear, it’s not “mistreatment.” Every time you say “jump Ben,” and he doesn’t ask how high…it’s not a mistreatment. People are asking him the same questions over and over again, and it’s not very nice to people who actually bought the yo-yo. I might have a question too, so I feel mistreated too, now my questions are not answered…anybody care? Of course not. 
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Could have gotten extremely nasty, or ignored them, but he did neither. I don’t like repeating myself either, but depending on your audience, you may need to say it a few different ways.
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He straight up ignored me. I never asked him to cut something up. Ben’s been ignoring me in these forums for years, YEARS. This is not anything new, kid. Your long-winded doting posts about that man are hilarious to me.
Your short posts are not even hilarious, so if mine are hilarious, at least they are entertaining. Yours are useless “kid.” I would ignore you too, but I’m bored today. So, I answered you. Feel better? Cry me a river. Boo hoo…you were ignored. And you call me doting, while you are sad about not getting some attention from Ben. Now we know the real reason you don’t like YoyoFactory. 
There’s a kid looking for you in the trader feedback section. I was going to PM you and give you a heads up. Message me, cause I can show you how to properly use that quote button. Free…no charge.
Now you can dislike me all day, because I have a mind of my own, and not on the hater bandwagon. I’m just speaking the truth. ;D But in other news…
I saw Stickman’s post in the Titanium list thread, and he has almost all of the titaniums that have been released. I asked him what he thought of the Ricochet. I’m still waiting to get mine in the mail (according to tracking, it should get here tomorrow). He said he knows I’ll be happy with it, and while many of these titanium throws are undersized, and he is not a big fan of undersized, he said due to the weight it has…he still enjoys it. He is one of a few people who can actually compare this yo-yo to other titaniums, and review it from that perspective. He is enjoying the Ricochet. I like undersized…they used to be my favorite, but now I prefer mid-sized. I will update tomorrow on the arrival of the Ricochet.