(This is another installment of my long winded sagas in dealing with Reality, which I realize is sadly sometimes difficult)(PS… I just read my entire post for typos. It is so long I was actually gonna reply to my reply and say. ‘TLDR’. But replying too long didn’t read would be kind of redundant since I’m the one that wrote it😂lol)
I have to admit, I’m having a little difficulty in understanding why you guys are misinterpreting this situation like you just can’t grasp the reality of it.
If you would scroll up this thread to her post that I made in July, I very clearly laid out the Y instead of the how come?
This has nothing to do with people hating on yo-yos. I fully understand that whether you’re at Disneyland in California or in Florida or Japan rules may be enforced to various degrees. But that more often than not is simply the result of inconsistency in the policing of the parks policies
I’ll lay this out in a practical form, so maybe somebody… Anybody, will be able to align with the reasoning of the situation more clearly.
To narrow down any cross park, inconsistencies, let’s just Focus on the Disneyland in California.
I’m totally guessing here on the numbers because I don’t know the numbers. But my example will at least identify part of the misunderstanding.
Let’s just guess that the Disneyland in Anaheim has 300 people spread out all over the park. In the regular Disneyland and the California adventure combined.
Now even though thosw 300 people are trained on what the rules are and how to enforce them, you’re not dealing with 300 clones of the same person. You’re dealing with 300 people that are as different in ways as are we. So you can tell all of these employees….These are the top 20 rules we want you to enforce…
One of the rules is no skill toys to be tossed around in the park. No bowling pins no juggling chainsaws. No throw tops. No lawn darts. No hackey sack. No corn hole Contests. And no, throwing yo-yos.
One of the things that would be considered a ‘Constant’, Is that all 300 of those people, no matter how it may affect their continued employment at the park, are going to deal with and or enforce those rules to the letter.
You know the old saying about stars just happening to align here and there? You know the old deal about in the right time at the right place or in the wrong time at the wrong place etc…
So let’s say you’re waiting at the Indiana Jones ride. In the line just happens to be 300 people long. And you’re just stubborn enough to wait for that whole hour. But after about 20 minutes or so you start getting bored because you ran out of corny jokes, and your friends are starting to look kind of sad. So you bust out a yo-yo to break the monotony of the ride waiting game.
The people around you are primarily gonna have one of probably three or four reactions. Some people waiting in line don’t care what you’re doing. Some people in line, may watch you out of simple, boredom, but say nothing they will just watch. Some people will watch you And possibly smile because they’ve never seen someone breaking out some solid combos and hitting their bangers. Some people will step back out of fear that your string may break because they have no way of understanding or realizing that you’re 100% polyester string isn’t gonna break no matter what the heck you do with it?
And one or two people may step up and say hey watch out man you can hit somebody.
Here comes security… Not intentionally, just coincidentally because they’re constantly Patrolling the park.
Now remember, like I already said, the rules are in place. How the rules are enforced and exactly when they’re enforced will be subject to the individuals’ Motivations at the moment they see you busting some moves.
The employee or employees that observe you throwing your yo-yo in the park, they like yo-yos? They may play yo-yos? They may have friends or relatives that throw yo-yos? They may not personally see any problem you could possibly be creating by throwing your yo-yos? They may understand that as long as you look like you know what you’re doing, that you’re not gonna hurt anybody? They may decide at that moment that they’re not getting paid enough to be confrontational and just let you slide? They make you shrug their shoulders and say no big deal let’s keep going.
An hour later, you’re walking down Main Street with your friends and there’s about a 20 square-foot area around you where there just happens to be nobody but you and your pals. So you decide to get a smile or two by doing some Eli hops and some Around the world’s and some Brent Stoles, As you walk along, shaking your head and laughing.
All of a sudden, just your luck standing on the side of the street are two more of the Disney security force employees. They just don’t happen to like yo-yos. They don’t understand yo-yos. They don’t understand how good you are and you’re probably not gonna hit anybody. They don’t understand that string seldom break nowadays… but what they do understand is they feel that if they don’t enforce the no skill toys rule they may get in trouble. They may get reprimanded. They may get fired. If they say nothing, they may feel like you’ll laugh in their faces because you think you’re not bold enough to do their jobs?
But technically, bringing up examples of which part you’re at, and how the employees in various situations, enforced or failed to enforce company, policies and protocols, that does not justify why you should be able to throw yo-yos around in close proximity to other people on their property.
It’s no different than when you see a sign on the restaurant. The sign as you enter the restaurant may just be more obvious because it’s hard to walk into the restaurant without passing the sign. The sign will usually say no shirt no shoes no service. There may be another sign That says we reserve the right to refuse to serve anybody.
Now when you go to Disneyland, and I must admit, I’ve been there a few times in the last 60 something years. I personally don’t ever remember seeing a sign that says no yo-yos allowed in the park. I’ve never looked up their website to see if there’s a list of exact rules specifically saying no skill toys allowed in the park. So I’m not gonna step outside of my Current knowledge base and tell you guys I’ve read the Bible as written by Disneyland.
But going back to the post above that I made in July, I tried to tell you guys after speaking to an actual lawyer that deals with liability cases involving theme parks of all types, he said that is a simple matter of how much it may cost Disneyland if someone throwing yo-yos around, Totally by accident happens to smack somebody upside the head or whatever?
If you are on the park grounds and worst case scenario your string breaks. Or somebody blindside you by just stepping in front of you as you’re throwing a breakaway and let’s say you hit him right in the teeth… You only knock out their front teeth, but it looks pretty traumatic and there’s blood all over the place. Oops I’m sorry that was an accident
At that point, the person that you accidentally injured is all of a sudden gonna realize that Disneyland is not the happiest place on earth for them at that moment in their life.
On the way to the hospital, all of a sudden a little light goes off in their head. And the next day, the lawyer up and their attorney contacts Disneyland management. The Injured party is not going to sue you for a substantial amount of money at that point… Because at that point they probably have no idea how much money you have?
But what they are gonna do is they’re gonna lodge a lawsuit against Disneyland. The lawsuit will state that Disneyland did not provide a safe environment for their client attending the park at the time of the accident. They are going to contend that Disneyland should enforce rules to the point that all people attending the park Should not have their Health jeopardized by another party at the park, not practicing safety.
So the reality is that the no yo-yo thing or I should say no skill toys in the park rules, actually have nothing to do with whether whatever Disneyland you’re at actually feels about yo-yo’s. Every mid management and upper management and CEO and employee of Disneyland may go to bed every night dreaming about Throwing yo-yos At the same skill level of gentry, Stein or Mir Kim.
But when you go to Disneyland, you are paying them to provide a fun environment for you. You are not paying 200 bucks a ticket so that you can bring the fun with you. You are paying $200 a ticket so they can provide you with the entertainment…
They want you to pay and they want you to have fun. They want you to have enough fun so even though you paid through the nose for your tickets, that you might just enjoy yourself enough so that you don’t cry like a baby and say you wasted a bunch of money for nothing.
That being said, they have to have some type of protocol so that they don’t get their pants sued off, By the constant lawsuits that people make against the parks for the various reasons, people have about how and why they got injured.
Disneyland loves making money. And like Apple, they make plenty of money. Some people say that the happiest place on earth isn’t Disneyland. To me, the happiest place on earth is the office at Disneyland, where they count the money. That is the happiest place.
But if they don’t minimize the possibilities of people getting injured and suing the park, they are just insulting their own intelligence.
Think of it this way… Even though I know and you know, and we know that we can all take turns going to Disneyland and as long as we pay attention to what it’s probably taking some of us years to learn, we can yo-yo all over the place without ever hitting anybody or hurting anybody or knocking anybody’s teeth out or whatever?
The problem is, they don’t know us. Us being yo-yo players. Anybody and everybody at Disneyland doesn’t know us any better than we know them. But the bottom line is very simple.
If you’re not allowed to throw your yo-yos around while you’re on the grounds of Disneyland, the chances of you smacking anybody upside the head and costing them $100,000 to pay for somebody’s front teeth or zero. Not close to zero. Just plain simple zero. So it’s in their own best interest to tell people you can’t do that. You might hurt somebody? You probably won’t. But we can’t take that chance.
If Disneyland wanted to be a little more straightforward and upfront, they would simply throw up in advance version of those restaurant signs. When you pony up to the pay window on the way in there should be a sign that says… No shirt no shoes no yo-yos or no service. We reserve the right to refuse the entrance of anybody that feels that they have to break out their yo-yo while they’re here and possibly knock somebody’s head off.
But they don’t do that and because of the inconsistencies in the way various Disney employees have dealt with enforcement of policies that people have experienced and comparing experiences, it kind of puts the onus on them In generating questions like… well they don’t stop me or I never had a problem or I’ve been there 20,000 times and all I do is throw my yo-yos and nobody’s ever say anything to me?
And 10 other people chime in and say well they took my yo-yo. Or they kicked me out of the park or they threaten to kick me out of the park. Or they gave me a bad attitude. Or they read me a riot act and told me that I was a troublemaker, blah blah blah.
And then we have an exception like Ed Haponik. Basically a fixed axle yo-yo god, lol
Ed, has gone to Disneyland multiple times over the years and just about always bust a couple of moves doing his magical fixed axle stuff.
Ed is pretty much an exception to the rule because he’s so damn good. They probably think he’s from some kind of royal yo-yo family visiting from a parallel dimension and are actually in fear of saying anything to him out of the possibility of him beating them to a pulp with his three and one no jive. So even though Ed chimed into this thread, mentioning that he’s never had a problem, there’s always an exception to the rule. And if anybody’s not gonna have a problem, it’s probably gonna be Ed. His yo-yo dominance most likely just gives him a pass. Whether the employees are geniuses or not that bright at all, no doubt they are observant enough that they can tell Ed is not gonna be a problem.
Believe it or not, I wasn’t gonna really have anything else to scan the subject until I noticed Rob saying that he didn’t like the idea that they have these stupid rules.
And as we all know on the face of it, Rob is right to an extent. It does seem like a stupid rule to tell people they can’t toss yo-yos around in the park. But you have to remove the emotion from the equation in an instance like this. You have to realize that Disneyland is a business. And tossing yo-yos around in the park during business hours doesn’t make them any money. Your admission ticket and the money you spend on food or T-shirts or whatever… That makes them money.
If they just relax and let you have the freedom to toss your yo-yo around and even to your surprise that string you should’ve changed last year just happens to break and you hit somebody’s grandma smack square between your eyes or knock her front teeth out the only two she had left is gonna cost them some money because it’s not gonna cost you any money. They’re the ones with the money. And those are the people the lawsuits go after.
It’s all about liability. And if any of you were brave enough to read my little oratory. If you read it with an open mind in a logical common sense, kind of way and know anything about how people will sue anybody for anything. Then you’ll understand the position of Disneyland.
To minimize the potential of liability. To minimize the potential of some park, attendees purposely or unintentionally injuring one or more other attendees. Parks do not like giving money away if they can enforce a couple rules to ensure that they get to keep what they make.
Period.
From this point, any little boo birds that want to chime in And say that I just don’t get it will only prove one thing… That they just don’t get it.
(Fortunately, no yoyo involved, it was on a 1200’ ship.)
i get why i spose but that still stinks