YoYoRecreation Appreciation Thread

A- ano flaw blink from yoyo day sale. Dead smooth. :slight_smile: Iā€™m stoked! http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/8ytemuve.jpg

Oh man i didnā€™t even notice the weight of the dark blue one. Bet that plays amazingly. 59g, bi-metal, d-bearing, wow, lemme know if you ever want to sell it!

The Leo Sniper MK2 is a rocket-ship. I have been thinking about doing a review of it because it is so unique to the Sturm-Panzer lineup. The Mk2 is super fast, super agile and overall uber-fun to play. Its light weight makes it easy to throw for long periods and the speed makes the energy input minimal. Add the sweet D-bearing and the MK2 is a totally new animal.

The light blue is really a striking color with the brass-rings.

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Ahā€¦so he did. Curse my speed reading. Sorry Greg.

Bimaterial is not really a word, though. So thatā€™s probably the reason.

The light blue one is also almost extinct. I was going to buy one but then suddenly Sturm Panzer released the 59.7 gram one, of which there was one in stock at the site I was watching, so I decided to get that one. Just sounded too interesting to pass up. They still have a few of the light blues so maybe I can pick one up later.

I liked the light blue color better too, but Iā€™m interested in how insanely speedy this will be. I just got the Eclipse Ogre set today and WOW those are some fantastic yoyos. The problems of the Stealth Ogre are gone. I love itā€¦ I got two 7075/brass rim bimetals for 22000 yen. And they play smooth as silk. I was expecting vibe and appearance imperfections but apparently theyā€™ve gotten their stuff together and now everything produced is A grade.

I couldnā€™t agree more. You know what I think I find most pleasing is that the initial Leo Sniper clearly wasnā€™t what the yoyo design could be, like theyā€™d made the shape actually under perform a little due to the weighting. I ADORE the fact that they realized how much more of a superb yoyo they could make it, and instead of shying away from that and just sticking with the original, just re-vamped it. For a new-ish under appreciated company, I think this takes real minerals. Especially when the end product (the MkII) is so good. Although I think the Draupnir is a truly special yoyo and would probably have to recommend it as an ideal purchase to anyone, I personally have more fun with this and throw this more.

Sturm Panzer is amazing. Even though they donā€™t speak English they still manage to have excellent customer service using web translators! And they hooked me up saving me 2000 yen on the DX-06 and saved it for me until I could work out the payment details. And they told me theyā€™d be making many more bimetal yoyos in the future. Plus their mangas are cool. I donā€™t know a lick of Japanese but I can sort of follow the plot with the drawings. And their prices are so REASONABLE compared to other companies making similar quality throws. Who else makes 7075/brass bimetals and sells them for $110 A grade?? Their most expensive models are still just $160. Turning point charges $250 for similar yoyos that arenā€™t even 7075. Is Sturm Panzer as good as Turning Point? Probably not, but theyā€™ll get there if they receive enough support.

You should post a review of the 62g Leo Sniper. Iā€™m planning on posting a review of the new one but the more exposure Sturm Panzer gets in the US, the better IMO.

A day or two after getting the new Leo Sniper Iā€™m going to post a joint review of the Eclipse Ogres and the Leo Sniper. Iā€™m new with reviewing yoyos so they may not be good, but Iā€™ll be sure to include lots of pics. Somebody gets garroted with a yoyo string in one of the Eclipe Ogre mangasā€¦lolā€¦itā€™s so awesome.

I did say that nobody would call it thatā€¦ soā€¦ ummmā€¦ yeah. Thereā€™s that.

Bimaterial is just as much a word as bimetal. Itā€™s just not as commonly found (especially in the yoyo world, where Iā€™ve never seen it). But back to the part where I said nobody would call it thatā€¦ yeahā€¦ thereā€™s that.

Not sure what youā€™re arguing now. :wink:

Ahhh, was so tempted by the 62g Leo Sniper, and now thereā€™s a 59g? Too much choice!

Iā€™d love to hear thoughts from anyone that has tried them both. :smiley:

ā€œBimaterialā€ seems like a legitimate word but I canā€™t find it in any dictionaries. Itā€™s not in the MS Word database, on dictionary.com, or webster.com. Maybe itā€™s in one of those super comprehensive dictionaries they use for scrabble tournaments :wink:

Ah Iā€™m just being a contrarian. Itā€™s in my nature. :-\

Unsurprisingly, Google turns up a tonne of papers and so forth which use the word bimaterial. Just one of several: http://www.mae.ncsu.edu/eischen/JEP3-90.pdf

Letā€™s give benefit of the doubt (because thatā€™s what you actually do in a good debate) and assume that itā€™s not a word used by NCSU scholars and other notables. As you should be aware, thereā€™s a great deal of liberty in the English language for creating new words. The ā€œbiā€ part just means ā€œtwoā€. Iā€™mma gā€™head and shove the word ā€œbiā€ in front of anything that makes a modicum of sense without too much fear of being misunderstood. I imagine it was clear to everyone what bimaterial meant. You even said that it seems like a legitimate word. :wink: New words get added to dictionaries (documents which themselves are not the sum total of the English language) on a yearly basisā€¦ all it takes is a certain level of ubiquity for the editors to bother with the word. Also unsurprisingly, ā€œbimaterialā€ is hardly ubiquitous.

When you do research you probably shouldnā€™t have a confirmation bias. Itā€™s sloppy research and doesnā€™t follow with the generally agreed-upon rules of logical debate.

I believe you and agree with you. What I meant was itā€™s not a dictionary word at this time which could explain why noone uses the term to refer to plastic/metal hybrid yoyos.

Of course there are many words used in certain professions (i.e., jargon) that donā€™t appear in dictionaries yet (and may never) because they are too obscure. For instance, from my field: homeomorphism, cohomology, simplicial, etc.

Everyoneā€™s guilty of confirmation bias to some extent. In this case I wasnā€™t. Confirmation bias implies Iā€™m ignoring evidence contradicting whatever claim is under investigation. In this case I just checked the two most prominent online dictionaries. If Iā€™m guilty of any dialectic faux pas itā€™s failing to widen my search parameters.

And for the record, the prefix ā€œbiā€ is often ambiguous.

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So, sloppy research without confirmation bias, then. :wink: Surely plunking a word into a search engine is the next step for someone trying to avoid confirmation bias, even if it turned out not to be the first step.

In other words, if I was willing to stick my neck out and say, ā€œThatā€™s not a word,ā€ I would be checking around first.

Iā€™m willing to believe that there are cases in which the ā€œbiā€ as a prefix does not represent ā€œtwoā€. I canā€™t think of any and would love to see some examples, but Iā€™m open to it. But for the record, that doesnā€™t mean the prefix itself is inherently ambiguous and certainly not that it is ā€œoftenā€ ambiguous. I believe the majority of literate people see ā€œtwoā€ as the de facto meaning of the prefix ā€œbiā€.

[Sorryā€¦ forgot this was the YYR discussion thread until I had already posted!]

The prefix ā€œbiā€ is ambiguous because it can mean either ā€œtwo/twiceā€ or ā€œevery two.ā€ E.g., biweekly can mean ā€œtwice weeklyā€ or ā€œevery two weeks,ā€ biannual can mean ā€œtwice a yearā€ or ā€œevery other year,ā€ etc. Pretty much any ā€œbiā€ word relating to time has this problem.

And what are you doing, assuming people are literate? Tsk tskā€¦Iā€™ve taught university level classes at a pretty decent university where the vast majority of my students couldnā€™t write complete sentences. And Iā€™m talking native English speakers, not first or second generation immigrants. It was depressing that I couldnā€™t count off for it just because they were math classes.

Anyway, this is a pretty pointless debate even as far internet debates go. I concede defeat. Letā€™s let the thread get back to YYR talk :wink:

Bisexual?

Yes, someone who likes the two (main) sexes?
Makes sense, though Iā€™m not sure what it has to do with YYRā€¦

The double meaning thing shai was talking about, itā€™s an exception.

Anyone know if the Laser is in stock somewhere? (PM me if so, please)
Or if theyā€™ll make another run anytime soon?

I do but thereā€™s just ONE and I was considering getting it myself for a 3A set. Iā€™ll PM you if I find another or if I decide not to get one.

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So I know the Mr. Butcher was designed for 5a and all but is it still a well balanced 1a throw? Iā€™m lookin towards it as my first YYR.