You can call them yoyo string weights lol
In general I’ve learned that there may not be that much interest in clay “key-chains”/Counter-weights.
I’ll make a few. Test them. See if they survive some regular tricks. See if they look good. Then I’ll post some pictures and ask if anyone’s interested.
Thanks for the advice!
If it pans out I’m interested
Ok! I’ll make sure that I like them before there’s any thought of selling them though.
Duncan Toys might want to have a talk with you about that.
They wouldn’t let me manufacture and sell counterweights without a hefty royalty and very large guarantee, so I’m pretty sure you’re in the same boat.
Feel free to drop them a line. Maybe you can get a better deal than I could.
Over-sized porcelain stringing beads.
Sell them as “items for making hobbyist jewelry”
What people do with them after they buy them isn’t your problem.
No, I wouldn’t buy them. I know I’d break them.
Clay is awesome. I’ve been working with ceramics for around 4 years now, I throw on the wheel mostly, but have done some small sculptures.
I know a lot about clay and have experimented with a few things before.
Clay can be extremely fragile. Once it’s fired (assuming you’re using legit clay and not like sculpey clay) the counterweight will become pretty dense (maybe too dense for yoyoing). But it also runs a high risk of cracking/breaking into pieces if it hits the yoyo, or the ground, or even the user. Clay also shrinks when fired, so you would have to do test runs to make sure the counterweight hole doesn’t get too small once fired.
The plastic counterweights are reliable because they are more durable.
I’m not saying its a bad idea. It would be awesome to do it for your own personal use, but I don’t think they’re the smartest choice of counterweight.
Have fun if you do make them. And be sure to let us know how they turn out
The reason I wanted to use clay was so I could make some neat shapes and patterns into it. I’ll probably test numerous kinds (including sculpey) to see what’s stronger. I’ve also considered making wooden cubes as the base to make it stronger and lighter. (possibly even all wood yoyo weight things could work)
I’ll also not call them Counter-Weights.
Maybe. I would possibly pay 1 to 2 dollars for one + shipping.
It’s not a bad idea.
I would contact Duncan and ask them if they mind. Maybe you could call them something else.
Honestly, even if I did do 5A, I wouldn’t buy this product. For tricks such as Nunchuk, it would just plain hurt, LOL. Not to mention, it would probably cost as much as a 3-pack of Duncan counterweights.
I had a clay counter weight from YYN forums, called a “dimple die”
It was durable to a point, but I feel sort of “restricted” playing 5a while being careful not to shatter the CW.
So, no, I’ll probably stick to plastic CW’s.
Plus the fact that even if you call them a different name (Spintop Button *hint *hint), Duncan will still come after you when you do decide to sell them. You could give them away for free though, LOL, but as for turning a profit, I don’t think it would be a great idea.
Sorry, but I wouldn’t buy them. I would constantly be afraid of breaking them, you know?
Both of these are very good replies. I would probably feel the same way.
And, with my grip, I could break one just do a counterweight trick.
Very interesting information here. In your experience, how easily can he maintain a consistent weight, from piece to piece, using clay?
Honest answer - I wouldn’t. My plastic counterweights are already quite chewed up from high speed collisions with my yoyos. I can’t imagine that clay would be able to stand the test of time.
Doesn’t matter what you call them, you are selling them for the purpose of being used as counterweight, which is illegal unless you license the patent from Duncan.
That would be hard to do. Clay is much easier to use when it’s wet, it’s pretty absorbent. You wouldn’t be able to consistently weigh them because one might have more water that the others. That’s why it shrinks. When clay is fired, it gets cooked at over a thousand degrees, which just evaporates all the water out of the clay, thus making it shrink.
Consistency would be hard to have when making clay counterweights.
I’m not saying it can’t be done, but every counterweight would basically be one of a kind.
If sculpy clay was used, you would be able to match the weights I believe. You can even insert something metal or wooden inside of it as a base to give it more support. Sculpy is also pretty durable, and softer than fired clay.
Experiment, try things out, have fun with it until you get a final product.
I think I will still experiment with making these. But in general I think it won’t work out. If I find they work really well, aren’t to heavy, don’t break, and are pretty durable I’ll contact Duncan and see if I could sell a few. I doubt I have enough talent to do this. But you never know
Thans for all the responses!
To help out with consistency, try to make a rig or a mold?
It’s funny how the inventor of Counter Weight play can’t even produce counterweights. Kind of frustrating. They have a whole line of yoyos that might not have been possible without you yet they won’t let you make counterweights. facepalm