@waylon,
I’m not sure how they are modded in all honesty. I’ve never seen a stock Pro Yo in person. Mine have a fancy ‘The Modfather’ cap on them with the official Duncan logo as well. They are a pair, one side red one side white. They are obviously for 2a and I have had a more experienced friend play them and he was doing all sorts of fancy moves with them and said they were ‘pretty cool’. They are mint as they have been thrown maybe only a few times I believe. Sorry I can’t tell you more about the technical specs. I’m not that knowledgable about yoyo’s really.
Now… I’m not trying to be Mr. Disagreeable… but here are some thoughts from a maybe different perspecitve??
By the same logic quoted above… I’d say there’s no such thing as a good 1A yo-yo… been playing with a tester-model of “Walter” for the past 2-3 weeks… and it’s kinda horrendous at techy 1A (by most standards) but it’ll leave a lot of “high-end” aluminum yo-yos in the dust for smooth responsive string-trick regen based play. (I’ll be doing a full review in a couple of weeks)
I’d also say that getting more into wooden yo-yos… (I’ve always liked 'em… but the past 3 months esp) I “wood” certainly caution people away from some models and toward others…
For example… the Fremont by TMBR is incredibly versatile in my opinion… if double looped around the axle, with a bit of wax on the end of the string, it’ll sleep, regen, shoot the moon, and more to one’s heart’s content. Single looped, it’ll do Superman and Spirit Bomb without any snag or troubles… but certainly won’t come back up with a gentle tug either. (I usually bind when set-up this way)
The No-Jive 3-in-1 has always been a bit of a “golden standard” for all others to fall in line with but even so… I’d rather loop for a wooden axle with a ProYo or BC Phantom than the 3-in-1 Imperial setup. Nor would I want a No Jive with engravings on the rounded sides set up for a butterfly playing session… But a clean machine for “Fixie 1A?” yeah… that seems to hit an almost perfect sweet spot an all accounts. But… the Fremont CAN “outperform” it for pure tech.
Similarly, ProFlies can be fun for a fixed axle, but I’d much rather play with an all wooden yo-yo.
Also… I’ve had a couple all wooden yo-yos that for whatever reason, even just as a 3-piece yo-yo of 2 halves, and a wooden axle peg… play horribly. No grip on the wind. No spin time… but the axles weren’t burnt out or scorched either… so who knows?
All that being said… I sure do love a good wooden yo-yo… and it truly is an experience unlike any other yo-yo (metal or plastic) The feel of the spin, the gradual coloration change form the sweats/oils in your hands… The forced simplification and deconstruction (and consequent reconstruction) of trick discovery is an absolute joy…
I got this earlier this week. I haven’t been so happy yoyoing in a while. I hit split the atom a few times today (three full rotations) in between learning some picture tricks. It was actually really hard and extra satisfying.
i don’t disagree with you. i just find the disparity to be more pronounced with wood than with metal. if you look at the yye new release page, the vast majority of the yo-yo’s on offer all cater to fairly similar tricks and styles.
i haven’t played the walter since its 2010 incarnation (man, i cannot wait), but i feel like what we tried to do with the flying v was similar. the width and rim weight made it less than ideal for what wins most contests, but it handled regens and stalls like a dream. i’d maintain that in terms of the direction we’re presently going in though, most metal throws are good at “the same stuff” in a way that isn’t the case with wood.
i def agree that no jives (besides clean machines) are mediocre loopers compared with proyos or technics and that the freemont is one of the most well rounded (so to speak) woodies to come along in a long time… although i think you guys are gonna like what we got coming.
The stock 3-in-1 no jives always dive or loop down for me. I fixed that by shimming the gap w/paper shims until they feel right. The maple leaf version w/the fixed dowel axle seems to work ok for me.
I make the shims with a paper punch, then cut the center hole w/a sharpened brass tube.
I have tried a wooden yoyo once and loved how fun it was to use. I have never looked into this before, but what is a good wooden yoyo to start with?
EDIT: Looking through this thread. Looks like people are really liking TMBR throws. Should I get a Baldwin? Also, I’m guessing I will need to use cotton strings with wooden yoyos, right? Because wouldn’t polyester strings melt?
apollos are still radical. i’ve got one of the old rainbow ones somewhere.
reminds me, adam - didn’t you win the worlds fixed axle challenge one year? 05 maybe? i’m trying to get a list of the winners from 01-06.