Why The "Peak 2" Hate?

Crap, I went off bad Intel, someone on here said the third run was manufactured by Onedrop. Price would be higher with them anyway, much cooler to make it more accessible to everyone anyway. Can’t wait to see what direction you go, you already have a blind buyer here

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I’ve pay $800 for a usa made peak
no problem paying 180-200 for one drop peak

only dreams

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That’s a tricky task, but I know you and Chris have the know-how to make it happen.

Very bluntly, I think releasing anything other than a literal 1:1 third run Peak (with maaaybe a slight reduction in the height of the nipple to differentiate it from the OG) as the P3ak would be a massive blunder. People literally just want to experience the Peak without the Peak price tag. Any changes at all would prevent that experience. I feel like the Peak, flaws and imperfect as it is, simply deserves to have it’s CAD run by a modern shop - if the Avalanche, Glacier Express, etc are being re-ran lately, it’s only fair that the yoyo that started it all gets that treatment as well. Once that’s done and released, if you wanna start doing slight changes/variations to weight distribution, size, etc go for it… but the overall sentiment of this thread, and complaints I’ve heard for a decade now is that people… don’t really even want those changes. lol… We don’t want a thread called “Why The Peak 3 Hate?” down the line, and pretty much the only way to do that is to run the Peak as is.

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I also don’t get why they made a big deal about the Chief needing an update but they’re okay with the Avalanche and other yoyos that I don’t think are as good, not that I wish they didn’t rerun the Avalanche. Is it because the name?

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Ohh yeah isn’t the Chief logo and box art and graphic design all very Native American? They could rebrand it with a new logo and maybe a new name, but the same yoyo. That could make things confusing, though, and people would probably still just call them Chiefs.

You think a same spec remake that had one minor adjustment, Peak nipple side effects, would still appear the masses? With white Cerakote and blue mountains…

Kinda like what happened with the Bassline to Bassline 2

Maybe after we get an exact 1:1 remake. Do whatever you want after that IMO lol…

And if I were CLYW I’d want to do it before someone else does, which they definitely will eventually. See: TiVayder.

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Ti Vayder was a very unique case that did get the original creator’s sign-off (admittedly after already getting the project started) where VsNYYC was no longer a part of the scene and had a lot of bad blood/controversy.

Given CLYW is still active, selling yoyos and well respected, I wouldn’t expect the same to happen with the Peak (and if it did it’d likely be treated the same as stuff like YYR knock-offs).

Frankly I’m dubious about a certain subset of Peak fanatics being properly satisfied with any kind of modern rerun no matter how faithful (there will be some intangible factor about the originals or people will fall back on the ever-tiring “but Chinese manufacturer” silliness). Better to make something the CLYW team are satisfied with imo.

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Who wouldve thought enthusiasts in a niche hobby would have reservations about the manufacturing process and where its coming from.

Having a career in machining is one of the main reasons I came back to this hobby.
Certain manufacturers do not excite me. Others share this sentiment for a multitude of reasons, it does not have to be a controversial opinion.

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I need a new run of bvm please

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Yeah I dont get why we need a new yoyo called the leaf. Just run the chief again and call it the leaf whats wrong with that.
Especially since there are so many other reruns coming by clyw.

They could just change the box art to a fire fighter badge or something lol

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I don’t get why they need to change anything; I knew some Native American guys who appreciated the representation. I don’t know, maybe I’m too sheltered to get it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I disagree that an attempt at a P3ak being the Peak with improvements will be a blunder. The Peak simply isn’t a great yo-yo compared to stuff now. The Avalanche and Chief are much better performers than the Peak. CLYW wants to make something that will sell thousands, not just a few hundred. If they made a Peak remake, they’d probably sell a bunch to people with nostalgia around the original, but beyond that it would most likely fall short in sales due to not being a phenomenal performer. If they wanted to do a small run that would be awesome, but beyond that they’d need to make improvements to sell more.

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sensitive subject for both side lol
probably easier for clyw to do how they do than risk 0.001% a native american get upset with branding. leaf is fine, chief name not that important to the yoyo identity really but it is funny situation all the same

clyw please do chinese new years edition yoyos. you have my (and china) permission

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Why not rename the Chief to Chef, it’ll cook

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Nah man I’m gonna have to majorly agree to disagree with you here. The whole reason this thread even exists is because they screwed with the Peak and tried to improve it in certain ways. Doing that AGAIN is just frankly dumb as hell and will yield the same disappointing results. There is literally no point in making very slight design changes to a bad yoyo, when those flaws and imperfections are literally what makes a Peak a Peak.

Funny how everyone knows and realizes this but still pays through the nose to get one (myself included, multiple times). Why not give more people access to one of the most widely coveted yoyos of all time? I literally don’t get why anyone would be against the idea of just running the third run CAD again - I not only guarantee that it would be wildly successful, but that people will be buying MULTIPLES. Anything attached to the Peak name does stupid well, so imagine FINALLY having one that’s a faithful reproduction of the original? Game over dude.

Sounds like YoYoFactory, not CLYW lmfao. With the exception of the Plastic Peak, I’d be absolutely shocked if most of the recent runs of anything CLYW has put out cracks a thousand, hell, even 500 units. A small run of anything would not be out of the ordinary for CLYW lol

At the end of the day, I just think it’s comical to be making even small changes that strip away what makes something what it is. The Peak will never be a good performance yoyo unless you change literally everything about it, so there isn’t even a point in touching it at all. The people want the Peak, as is, flaws and all… and I say give it to em.

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Chef is just the French word for Chief lol

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