What did you get in the mail, 2022?

I have a few 54mm yoyos and a Rebirth that is 53mm, so I wouldn’t consider it super small. It’s more of a midsize or slightly undersized throw. The average diameter being about 56mm.

So HYPED on the Duncan Butterfly.

Exclusive Pink from Target for the holiday season, in store only in the bargain bins up front. Made from the new mold, only $3. For what its worth the standard Red, Blue and Green are also from the new mold at Target.

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still waiting to find these in MA. not seeing any 3 dolla bargain bins myself…

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Theyre usually right at one of the entrances. Just a bunch of random looking stuff in a few shelves all marked $3.

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How can you tell that they are the new butterflies ?? It kinda looks almost the same :sweat_smile:

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Because @bjardin said so lol.

Also the package is 2022 and it plays the same as my psychedelic flys.

Image from AquaJoe on the fixie discord. Purple is new exclusive amazon, orange is old. Check the details in the print and shape of date code

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the easiest thing to see is the graphic is more filled in in the butterfly wings,
the line under duncan has a narrower gap to the butterfly wings, and the code marking under the word butterfly is arced instead of straight.

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Ah that makes a lot more sense thank you :grin:

I’ve been waiting…

Super fun mail week so far, still waiting on a new Sushi and some hidden gems ive been dying to snag since i got back into throwing
:sweat_smile::+1:

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Oh thats a wicked looking weapon then a yoyo haha yea. This throw is very smooth i love it a bit small diameter but its great it is 65 grams plays like a heavier stable throw the size throws me off but im use to gtr and irbital gtx styles

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The gtr series is still dunans best imo. Then orbital gtx haymakerx

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Got my Top Deck in a few days ago, but didn’t really have time to post about it until now. Get your pitchforks ready I guess, cause IMO this thing is actually pretty mid. It’s not a bad yoyo, it just feels like something literally mid-development. The following is all my opinion, so take that for what it’s worth. The edges are too sharp (as @hobby_master pointed out as well, I totally agree) and would be much more comfortable if they were ever so slightly rounded out. If you catch it in a way that isn’t perfect, you can definitely feel that sharpness and RIP to your fingers/knuckles if you knock into them mid combo. Also, I understand that heavier throws have their place and a lot of the time it’s a preference thing, but this thing just has too much weight in general IMO. I feel like if it was 1 or 2 grams less, it would really be in a sweet spot - especially if some of that weight was pushed more towards the outer edge and away from the center. Cause it feels REALLY dense, and I’m not surprised - if you’ve seen Jake’s Let’s Cut A YoYo featuring the Top Deck, you’ll see how much weight is in the middle of this thing. All in all I can see why they moved past this and haven’t made it in awhile - things have definitely improved since then. I just feel like I’m using a prototype of something that COULD be an absolute banging yoyo with some adjustments. This would be one of those models that could VERY much benefit from one of their “20/20” revisions series, as I feel with just a few tweaks this could be a GREAT yoyo. Until then - get a Free Solo, it absolutely mops the FLOOR with the Top Deck and having both now only confirms that the Free Solo is by far the best performing One Drop available/out there.

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All a matter of taste. I’ve been throwing my Top Deck since 2019 and have not found a yoyo I liked more. Any tweeking, to me, would make it not the Top Deck I am in love with.

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Re: Top Deck

Well, Turning Point and sOMETHING routinely turn out yoyos in the 66-70g range, so One Drops like the Top Deck must be in pretty good company. But you know, I never really noticed that the Top Deck weighed in at 66g, maybe because I don’t play with very long strings? :man_shrugging:

As for the “sharpness” of the edges, I’d describe them as being no different than 90% of the bi-metals I own. Honestly, the Top Deck’s rims have never bothered me, unlike a few yoyos I have that do, in fact, have perilously sharp rim edges.

Lastly, I also saw Jake’s video where he cuts a Top Deck in half and shows the cross section, and I think I saw a different video than you did because to my eyes, there is very little center mass at all and most of the yoyo’s weight is in the rims. In fact, it is the extremely thin walls around the hub that makes the Top Deck vulnerable to breaking there if the yoyo experiences too hard of an impact.

I acknowledge that everyone has their own experience of any given yoyo, and that nobody’s personal preferences are “wrong”, but when I hear reviews like Spence’s I honestly wonder sometimes if others have the same yoyo that I do.

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that sir is a beautiful splash on that rev. also dang, now i want to get a rev of my very own.

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No Pelican case for the Ti??

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I would imagine if your revision were used in a redesign of the original you may not be able to accomplish just how extremely thin-wall the design currently is.

I was poking around the idea that one of the reasons we may not have seen this design for the last few years is simply because it’s just annoying to make. Thin-wall machining requires some pretty serious fixturing and know-how, even with a really great setup it can still fight you. I sometimes shake my fist at thin-wall features on my own production parts. If it was possible to remove it, it would be simpler and easier to make.

If you see each design as an experiment, the Top Deck definitely seems to have pushed the limits, and the market definitely responded to it years ago. But maybe the lesson learned from that experiment was that extreme weight distribution with thin-wall design is just too much work for what it’s worth.

Just some thoughts, I really enjoy the Top Deck, it’s not my absolute favorite either, but man it’s a cool design.

I enjoyed your review.

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I think you have a few misunderstandings about definitions relating to cross sections of throws.
Mid-weight is not rim-weight, and mid-weight is not-center weight. In the photo below, the blue would be considered rim-weight, and the red considered mid-weight. From the response area to the red portion would be considered center-weight.


Most of the mass/weight you’re talking about is pretty clearly in the MIDDLE/center of the half (circled in red), not at the edge/rims where SS rims would go on a yoyo (circled in blue). The Top Deck has a lot of mid weight, not rim weight as you suggested.


Check out this shot of a Top Deck cross section on top of a Kuntosh 5KQV cross section. You can see that center mass isn’t there, and it flares out at the edges rims. This is a much more even and equal weight distribution that I feel like the Top Deck would really benefit from.

I’m not here to change anyone’s mind about the Top Deck. I know it’s a really well loved throw, I just think they’ve done so much better in the years since it’s released, leaving it a bit outdated in terms of design. Just my opinion.

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Rev1 is the 20/20 topdeck

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