Lol. You specifically said it was “shady”. I’m gonna go with you said there was something wrong with it.
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his post got 11 likes, not unpopular enough. C-
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To me, this is intimidating. 9 times out of 10, when I do offer something, they either ignore me or decline my offer. Or it’ll go something like:
Grail MIB- make offer
Me: How about like 100
Them: Sorry I’ll take 160 for it.
Me: Nope, don’t want one that bad.
By that point, why even request offers?
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the art of haggle. you could always counter offer with 90.
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I’m with you on this. I fully appreciate someone wanting to get as much as they can for the item they are selling. They should also appreciate that I’m interested in buying that item at the lowest possible fair price. Put up your asking price, throw in “OBO” and minimize the negotiation. Just like I wouldn’t waste someone’s time by offering $40 for a mint ciTizen, I don’t want my time wasted by offering $275 for the same yoyo and getting the response “I’m thinking I need to get at least $550 for it considering how rare it is, the condition, etc”.
My personal pet peeve is “that is the price for ‘friends and family’, if you insist on paying ‘goods and services’ add 4%.” No, I won’t remove any chance of PayPal protection by helping you steal from PayPay, no thank you, I will find someone else to purchase the yoyo from.
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Nothing “wrong” with being shady, nothing illegal about it.
Not liking something or a practice is not the same as saying something is wrong or incorrect.
I said it was shady. I didn’t say it was wrong.
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I can understand both sides here. But, without wanting to offend anyone, I genuinely think it’s always better if the seller adds a price to each item he/she intends to sell.
Some folks are extremely nice. They simply don’t know how much their items are worth and choose not to set a price. Instead, they wait to see what the community thinks they’re worth. People lead busy lives these days. It’s not always easy to keep track of prices and trends.
This isn’t always the case, however. I’ve bought from a lot of people, and on several occasions the entire thing turned into a bid war. I offered a specific amount of money for the item. The seller said he had a better offer. I then offered more. The seller asked the other bidder/s for more. I don’t think that’s nice. That’s what Ebay is for.
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I mean there is an appraisal thread.
This could also go the way of the buyer.
Seller doesn’t know they have something highly collectible. Says “Been out of the game blah blah don’t know how much it’s worth, make me an offer.”
Seller gets lowballed but is happy with it. Sells for cheap.
I guess I’m saying don’t be lazy, don’t be “shady”, do your hw and list a price.
**shady defined by me. “Selfish intentions of making bank.”
*** disclaimer. Nothing wrong with wanting to make as much as you can. I’m just not a fan of it. And yes I do my best to practice what I preach, I usually sell my stuff far below what they go for new, because I’ve used it. It’s not new, I may have even sneezed by it.
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You don’t steal anything from PayPal when you use f&f.
When you send g&s the seller pays the 4% fee and when you send f&f the buyer pays the 4% fee. Either way, PayPal gets its 4%.
This is incorrect.
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Poor PayPal is gonna go out of business because of all the yoyo transactions that use F&F rather than G&S. Somehow I still don’t feel sorry for them.
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Same here. This is usually enough to turn me off of the yoyo if I were interested in it. That said, I remember someone trustworthy (forget whom but they ran a yoyo company and I believe they sponsored players) on the FB BST saying that some people do it if they have a PayPal loan. Basically, it sounded like any G&S transaction for them would have some or all of it collected by PayPal towards repaying the loan. So if the person needs cold, hard cash, they’re better off with F&F.
That said, I’m still probably gonna steer clear.
I wouldn’t have just pulled that out my butt…
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I think they waive the fee of you connect your bank account and pay F&F.
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My banks connected, I’m honestly not sure why this is happening.
I’m pretty sure it’s a recent thing, I’ve only noticed it the last few days.
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The payment method you have selected is a card, not your bank account. You need to select that option to have the fee waived.
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Ahhh, there you go. Must have switched when I ran out of cash in my PayPal and it picked up my card.
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I have only used PayPal a few times, but if I’m doing a first time business transaction with anybody I’m going to go with goods and services. Trusted user or not, I’m not willing to get scammed. Not a true “friend” until a completely successful transaction. I actually wouldn’t mind paying extra if asked, nor do I think it is rude to ask a buyer do so if your profit margin takes F&F into consideration. Some sellers are “nice”, but you sell yoyos to make/recoup money; it’s not charity and I dont expect niceness to be expected. A seller should want to maximize profits and i dont blame them. If you don’t want it, dont buy it.
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Yeah, for me, this is the real turn-off when dealing with BST in general. The “ignore” mentality is so common now, rather than just saying no thanks. It’s frustrating for sure. I’ve had people flip out on me when I followed up with an offer, saying they don’t owe me a reply etc… mega lame, not changing my mind there
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