I can understand both sides here. But, without wanting to offend anyone, I genuinely think it’s always better if the seller adds a price to each item he/she intends to sell.
Some folks are extremely nice. They simply don’t know how much their items are worth and choose not to set a price. Instead, they wait to see what the community thinks they’re worth. People lead busy lives these days. It’s not always easy to keep track of prices and trends.
This isn’t always the case, however. I’ve bought from a lot of people, and on several occasions the entire thing turned into a bid war. I offered a specific amount of money for the item. The seller said he had a better offer. I then offered more. The seller asked the other bidder/s for more. I don’t think that’s nice. That’s what Ebay is for.
Seller doesn’t know they have something highly collectible. Says “Been out of the game blah blah don’t know how much it’s worth, make me an offer.”
Seller gets lowballed but is happy with it. Sells for cheap.
I guess I’m saying don’t be lazy, don’t be “shady”, do your hw and list a price.
**shady defined by me. “Selfish intentions of making bank.”
*** disclaimer. Nothing wrong with wanting to make as much as you can. I’m just not a fan of it. And yes I do my best to practice what I preach, I usually sell my stuff far below what they go for new, because I’ve used it. It’s not new, I may have even sneezed by it.
Same here. This is usually enough to turn me off of the yoyo if I were interested in it. That said, I remember someone trustworthy (forget whom but they ran a yoyo company and I believe they sponsored players) on the FB BST saying that some people do it if they have a PayPal loan. Basically, it sounded like any G&S transaction for them would have some or all of it collected by PayPal towards repaying the loan. So if the person needs cold, hard cash, they’re better off with F&F.
I have only used PayPal a few times, but if I’m doing a first time business transaction with anybody I’m going to go with goods and services. Trusted user or not, I’m not willing to get scammed. Not a true “friend” until a completely successful transaction. I actually wouldn’t mind paying extra if asked, nor do I think it is rude to ask a buyer do so if your profit margin takes F&F into consideration. Some sellers are “nice”, but you sell yoyos to make/recoup money; it’s not charity and I dont expect niceness to be expected. A seller should want to maximize profits and i dont blame them. If you don’t want it, dont buy it.
Yeah, for me, this is the real turn-off when dealing with BST in general. The “ignore” mentality is so common now, rather than just saying no thanks. It’s frustrating for sure. I’ve had people flip out on me when I followed up with an offer, saying they don’t owe me a reply etc… mega lame, not changing my mind there
I just looked it up on the PayPal site, if you send Friends and Family from PayPal balance or bank account, PayPal waives the fee. If you send via credit or debit card, the sender pays the fee. However, I stand by my unpopular opinion that I’m not going to forfeit buyer protection so a seller can be lazy and not calculate how much he needs to sell a yoyo for in order to get the amount of money he wants after fees and shipping charges. I’m also not nearly a trusting enough soul to tell a stranger from the internet I’m willing to become the latest “I bought a yoyo from _____, paid friends and family, it has been 2 months, he hasn’t responded to any PM, I haven’t gotten my yoyo”
People who pull that game aren’t shady, they are thieves.
If you assume that the person on the other end of the keyboard is 10 years old it helps. Not saying that the serious lack of manners online is nice, just that it feels like yelling at clouds to care about it at this point, you know? That said, I’m always pleased to deal with polite people who communicate in full sentences.
That’s actually a strange rule. It would be like the postal service denying a seller’s right to charge for shipping costs. Unless im misunderstanding you.
It is also against their terms of service to use F&F in a business transaction, but people don’t care because PayPal is one of those “evil” corporations.
It’s the same rule that credit card companies use. Stores aren’t allowed to add a fee to pass credit card processing costs to the customer. The traditional way around this is to post the price that would be for credit card (PayPal in this case) and then offer a discount if paying with cash (I guess F&F in this case)