String Makers Discussion

Been experimenting with super thick thread lately, it has a different feel than regular thread

A little over 800$ca in Neon and White thread.
…I was running low on some different weights. :slight_smile:

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Are you making it into $800 worth of string 8).

probably more otherwise there wouldn’t be any profit

Holy cow! That’s a lot of string

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So, I finally switched back to a basic poly string, and I realized how much I disliked it. Just too loose!

What makes a string rigid?

I’d try twisting it tighter if I were you

You can try using different types of thread together also, different combos of thread weight and types change the characteristics of the final string. There is also different methods of twisting the string that you can try. You just gotta make tons of strings my friend and throughout your experience you will learn different techniques to aid you on your way.

Okay so a little rookie question, I’ve roughly constructed jake ellioots rig thing and I was wondering how you keep the loop open after you take it off the drill/dremel so you can put it on the hook easily?

Pinch the string blow it, it should unravel up to your fingers but no farther

I use two hooks. One permanently attached to the dremel and some “S” hooks you can buy at Home Depot. You your un-spun thread to the S hook, then the S hook to the dremel. Then after you do your first spin you just take the hook off the dremel and hook it to the knot end. Il take some pics for you if that description was confusing just PM if you want them.

Adapt your rig process to simply bypass “moving” the media from one system section to another. Keep it all in one chain process. The more breaks in the chain the slower and more cumbersome the process becomes. I am down to 2 chain sections from 5 and, hopefully, will soon be down to a single smooth process.

I evaluate every rig improvement under THREE simple criteria.

    1. Is the quality the same? is it better?
    1. Is it faster?
    1. Is it easier?

3-4 years ago I thought my rig was perfect…oh how wrong I was. :slight_smile:
I am using rig #9 now, and already working on rig #10 in the back of my mind.

We will never make this perfect folks, we can only make it better and better.
Never stop evolving.

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You got that right. With my dad being a mechanical engineer and all, we are coming up with a design that hydraulically flips the rig over (for the second Kink/twist). If it worked all it would take on my part is to attach thread to some hooks, and press some buttons

Here’s another vote for more rigid… help, please.

I made my first string and used Coats & Clark dual duty XP polyester coated polyester, trying different windings, and the result was always really whippy, even when wound tight (even when matching the wind on Kitty String, for example). I found that the tighter wind added bounce and roughness.

Ideally, I want to match the feel of normal poly Kitty String and then start experimenting. So… to do that, what sort of thread should I order? Not necessarily brands, but thread types. Serger…spun… trilobal… what do they do for string feel?

EDIT: Checking my string again, I see that the tighter wind did add stiffness (in addition to the bounce and roughness), but what I’m really trying to find is the differences in thread types, specifically with respect to how whippy a string is.

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Unbonded nylon is extremely light weight, you can try using some of it in your string to take some of that “whippyness” but doing so will also make the string less stiff because the unbonded nylon is very soft and not very dense. Bonded nylon how ever is also light but it will add stiffness because it is a solid piece of string, they usually use it in leather and upholstery because of its strength. Trilobal polyester is very dense thread and in turn it also pretty heavy, they make trilobal polyester completely different from spun poly. For example if you were to make a type 8 string with all trilobal polyester it would whip faster than most could handle or than most would want to handle. The the regular type poly or spun poly, is less dense then trilobal but more dense than nylon. It is fairly soft and kind of looks like cotton, little fuzzies and such. Its really just all about experimenting my friend.

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Go to Walmart and buy a cone ( about 1000-2000 yeards) of “Serging Thread”. It should be about 2 dollars. That will feel more soft like kitty. Dual Duty is a more rough string, but also whips faster. It’s a give and take

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Thanks for the suggestions fellas, I’ll give them a shot.

In the meantime I am trying to maximize my technique on this dual duty XP and getting increasingly better results.

This is kind of fun.

It definitely is! That thread has TONS of potential to be amazing, just keep messing around

Just ordered $75 worth of large cones of thread. So excited :slight_smile:

That’s exactly how much I spent on thread when I FIRST started all those years ago.

The plan then was to turn it into string, sell it and hopefully pay off the VISA bill before it arrived.

My my, how time flies. :slight_smile:

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