Im a beginner basically i have only had cheap Duncan butterfly and the best thing i can do is maybe split the atom and i think its time to step up but im on a very tight budget and i need a good cheap yoyo maybe no more than 20 bucks im thinkin of kickside but somebody help me out

answer these questions

  1. What size do you prefer? (Big, small, medium, etc)
  2. What shape do you prefer? (Be specific: Round Butterfly, Flat Rims, pointy shape, H-Shape)
  3. What response do you prefer? (Silicone, O-Ring, Hybrid, Pad, etc)
  4. Do you like to mod/maintain it?
  5. What weight is ideal to you?
  6. Does color matter?
  7. How does your style relate to the yoyo? (What kind of tricks do you like to do? Fast? Technical? Smooth? Slacks?)
  8. What is your price range?
  9. What is your skill level?

Grab yourself a Legacy and the necessary accessories. (string, lube, silicone, etc) Be ready to learn to bind, but this yoyo will take you very far. It’s a very solid player.

the other yoyos are great and he said the most 20 dollars thats why i think one of the 15 dollar ones and he will have some extra money for lube and string

Just a thought:

He only have one yo-yo, and the best trick he can do is Split the Atom. It will be hard for him to answer almost all of those questions.


Hello! Welcome to YoYoExpert!

Some Choices:

YoYoJam Journey:

Lyn Fury:



I prefer the Lyn Fury and the Velocity. The Velocity has a feature that enables you to change the response of the yo-yo to be more or less responsive.

After a while, the first 3 I listed will get more unresponsive, so you should pick up some Lube:


You can learn the “Bind” technique, taught here:

The Legacy is also a choice, but it requires a Bind right out of the box, so you will need to know a Bind or get Thick Lube.

Hope I helped!

Calm down on the preference there. It’s not really easy to build a personal preference if you’ve only used a Butterfly. So hold your horses before you start shooting those questions out there.

Now since you can’t bind, a Legacy will annoy you a bit, and there’s no need to rush to unresponsive play. Now you should really take a look at the YoYoFactory Velocity. It features YoYoFactory’s Speed Dials which will make you able to adjust the response to the way you want it.

Now for about 5 dollars less you have YoYoJam’s line of cheap plastics. The Lyn Fury, SpeedMaker, Journey and Kickside are all part of this line being at $15.30. Out of those, it’s basically a coin toss. The Journey might not be able to take you just as far as the others but it’s not your worst pick. The others (not the Journey) will come responsive, but they will turn unresponsive after a relatively small amount of play. Depending on your learning speed, these might turn unresponsive before or after you want them to. They will however take you really far. They are all pretty good yoyos that can handle most tricks on this site. So again, it’s mostly a coin toss.

Addment: If you are thinking of doing 5a in the future, don’t go with the SpeedMaker, it’s too light for 5a.

Snaddment: Welcome to YoYoExpert! You’ll definitely have a good time here.

Hi there! Welcome to YoYoExpert!

If you want my opinion, I think the Kickside would be a great choice for you. Other great choices would be the Lyn Fury, Speedmaker, and Journey. Go with whichever one you think looks the coolest.

I also recommend that you pick up a 100 pack of Slick 6 string (Or 100% polyester, if you want to splurge).

You can pick up some string here (You may have to scroll down a bit):

Thin Lube is also pretty important, it’s good to have when you’re ready for unresponsive play. You also might need it in the future for bearing maintenance.

You can find thin lube here:

I hope this helps! :slight_smile:

well i know how to bind a tab bit i have played with some other peoples yoyos and i want a yoyo thats a little on the smaller size but still has a decent weight

lyn fury and velocity are good yoyos i recommend velocity

Lyn Fury…

For beginner, Velocity or Lynfury will be great. With Velocity you just twist dials to make it responsive or unresponsive. Lynfury will be responsive when you just tighten the gap and when you will need unresponsive just untwist it a little bit/add shims and sillicone it and it will be great.

The Velocity is very light, so you might not like that considering you want a little more weight.

I still recommend the Kickside or Lyn Fury. The Kickside is a tad heavier than the Lyn, and the Lyn is a hair smaller than the Kickide.

I say, choose the one that looks cooler to you.

the only thing im worried about is i used to use a duncan mosquito and i liked how it felt in the hand and then i got this butterfly and its almost a little too big for me i have tiny hands and i kinda wanted something small but still a good yoyo

Neither of them are as big as a Duncan Buttlerfly. They’re both good yo-yo’s, and you’ll get used to the size even if they’re too big for you. There really aren’t many undersized plastics, (The Mosquito, Flying Squirrel, and Gung-Fu are the only ones that come to mind, but I wouldn’t recommend any of them to a beginner).

with a good yoyo i can do the trapenze split the atom atomic bomb brain twister suicide and all those tricks so you think a flying squirrel would be good for me since i like undersized yoyos and the flying squirrel has some weight in it dont it?

I don’t recomend Duncans to start, try a KickSide or Lyn Fury

i always thought Duncan was more basic for beginners

i would go with the flying squirrel best beginner yoyo i ever got

Just get a Velocity, honestly. YYJ is great, but you just can’t beat adjustable response.


Duncans can be bad for beginners because they’ll have to change the stickers constantly.

And if you think they’re bad for advanced players…