And now I have discovered an unopened Profire axle, pads, string baggie.
I need to buckle down and get this stuff out of my house 
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Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. I suppose the āoreo gadeā was simply a factory color swap.
I had thought that it was modified in some way (gap, shape, weight etc) from the original renegade.
Did you ever end up selling any of your awesome collection? Iām pretty sure I PMād you on reddit to come on over to the forums to get those bad boys appraised. Glad you stuck around my friend!
I am still in the where-is-the-time phase of this. I need to complete the inventory first.
Thanks for the tip re: appraisal.
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Keep them, you seem to love yoyos 
but Iāll be the first in line if you do want to rid your hands of some of your gems.
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Speaking of old yo-yos, if anyone has a couple of these to sell for reasonably cheap
please let me know!
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Wait that could be played with a bearing or a wooden axle?
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Although the Turbo Bumble Bee and derivatives were normally associated with a ball bearing they often came with optional items; a fixed wooden axle, a fixed brass axle and a sliding brass assembly.
For the ball bearing it was also possible to adjust the gap with different thicknesses of bearing seat. These continued into Duncanās ownership of the design.
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thats really dope, i had a bumble bee at one point in my life (around middle school, so like early 00s), and i dont remember the accessories only the ball bearing, cuz it was the longest sleeping yoyo i had ever experienced lol
looked just like this
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Wow dude you really know your stuff! I had no idea there were actually different sized bearings seats to adjust gap width. Thatās freaking awesome.
I have what is known as niche knowledge. Not useful, not worthwhile, but there it is anyway.
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Oh it was very useful today my friend!! 
I had one a nice throw should of remade it
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Honestly wish they would.
All it needs is a size c bearing and updated response, and the ability to go halfspec for people that want responsive play.
whatās the appeal with the size C vs the good old size A bearing? im a little out of touch with this stuff, becuase the last time I was into yoyo, I donāt even think anyone had put a size C bearing in something yet. or if they did I did not know about it.
I would hope that it would get a more thorough rework than that If youāve ever pulled a Renegade apart then youāll know that they are hardly objects of precision engineering and fine balance.
Observe the internal weighting ring on this early versionā¦ 
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Haha. I think I owe a lot to the ability to play with any old thing.
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Size C is just so standard across the board. It gives you the ability to get the gap bigger for unresponsive, but still use a halfspec to play like an A size bearing - the Renegade uses a size B thatās commonly used for loopers. No one used an A sized back then until YYJ I think. The renegade was the bridge from oldschool to midschool.
I would rather a new version of the renegade be pushed towards 1A tricks over looping, since thatās kind of itās history and heritage. Making a new Renegade with a Size B bearing is kinda pointless to me, and going with a Size A kinda feels like it would be the same vibe as a Duncan Freehand.
Thatās kind of the reason I want them to remake it. I donāt want something fancy, or something expensive, or for them to make something new. All I want is the same exact renegade with an updated response/bearing system.
Personally, I put the same type of rubber rings under the caps of my Butterfly XT, I think itās genius.
Thatās not rubber though. Thatās a length of metal rod, formed into (roughly) a circleā¦ give or take. I think the term ācrudeā would be generous.
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So this was driving me up the wall. I knew I knew about it but couldnāt put my finger on it.
I am determined. From Infinite Illusions 2001 catalog(ue).
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