Played a bit heavy with the Brass Ul’s…
Domes fit it nice !!
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Did you have any trouble getting the brass ULs out? I really had to force mine out by pushing them against a book. Now, any other SEs I put in seem to fit loose and gives pretty bad vibe. I haven’t tried the same brass ULs back in it yet to see if that helps normalize it.
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Try putting the brass LE’s back in. Also have you done much tuning on it with the new SE’s?
I spoke with Jeffrey from Luftverk about this because I had this issue with one of his yoyos. He assured me that no matter how much pressure I had to put on em to get them out there was no way I was going to damage the yoyo. I ended up having to put my entire body weight into it on a solid granite counter top to push them out. Yoyo was fine.
The reality of SE’s is that some will produce vibe and some won’t depending on the yoyo. I think I remember Elvin saying that these Martians required a lot of tuning to get em as close to smooth as possible. You should contact him for more info though if your worried about it.
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How does one tune the side effects?
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Yeah, I had to push down on a piece of wood and they popped out but mine still plays smooth. I played around with the side effects a little bit to try to tune it and it’s smooth now.
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I put a tiny bit of oil on the rubber ring. I first put the yo-yo together play it. Flip the bearing to see if that makes a difference. Then I flip sides with the side effects and flip the bearing again. I find the smoothest configuration and then I will turn one of the side effects usually with the screw about 10° each time and I could find a smooth spot and if I go past it’ll get a little vibey if I go back it’ll be smooth
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So put the yo together and turn it just enough that it feels secure and wont fall apart when you throw it then do a throw and see how it feels. If it’s vibey bind and tighen it just a tiny bit more (like as small a movement as possible) then throw again and repeat and until you find a spot where it feels smooth. Usually you can find a sweet spot. At least that’s how I do it.
Oops just saw Sloe already covered it lol
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Thanks for the tips!
Has anyone compared the Martian to the canvas yet? I’m waiting for some UL to come in to see how similar it plays to the D7.
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Lol, the brass ULs basically fell out of mine the first time I opened it up!
None of my sets fit very tightly, but I did get dead smooth a couple times without any tuning while swapping around. I found a little oil on the o-rings helped a tad, most of these sets have been sitting in their tackle box for sometime.
I went as heavy as brass flats today, which was actually rather nice. I’ve gone back to mini spikes at the moment, although the red ULs are staring me down!
Lego studs were really pleasant as well.
Side note: tuning is real and necessary if you really want it smooth. First time I slapped the mini spikes in it was dead smooth. Second time, fingernail vibe 
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Hey all! @Raindog3030 bought my attention to this thread.
Regarding The Martian:
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It is normal if you would sometimes need extra force to pop the SEs out. I would say this is true for a large proportion of SE yo-yos in my collection (including a large number of One Drops).
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The SE hole is definitely slightly looser on the Martian compared to the usual RSO SE yo-yos. Depending on the SE / bearing combination used (see below), you might need to sometimes hold gently onto the SE to screw the yo-yo tight. However, you should not be struggling to do it.
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The “looseness” of the SE in the yo-yo also depends significantly on the bearing tightness around the SE. If the bearing tightness around the SE is more than the tightness of the SE in the yo-yo (it is is all relative), the bearing grips both parts of the SE. The whole bearing-SE component hence rotates within the yo-yo halves in this scenario, making the yo-yo impossible to screw tight. NSK DS bearings generally have a tighter fit - I feel these make the yo-yo play really smooth, but could sometimes cause problems with screwing the yo-yo together.
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Tuning the Martian proved to be more difficult compared to previous RSOs due to the looser SE fit in the yo-yo. This involved swapping both parts of the SE, bearing and yo-yo halves to get the best “fit”. The components have different tolerances and have to be “compatible”. If they fit snugly, the yo-yo is smooth. If one component is too tight relative to the other, the yo-yo cannot be screwed together properly as per point 3.
How I assembled The Martian:
- Randomly pick two yo-yo halves, two SE and one bearing.
- If it screws comfortably together, I will test for vibe.
- If there is vibe, I will first swap out the bearing.
- If there is still vibe, I will swap out either one of the SE.
The above steps generally allow me to assemble what I think is an A-grade Martian.
The way @Evertonian and @sloegoe have described how to tune an SE yo-yo is absolutely correct. Generally, I feel that the Martians I have tuned only require one 10 degree tightening after you put the yo-yo together without any force. Some require an additional 5 degree tightening to tune smooth. Wrenching it hard will not do the trick. You have to find the sweet spot.
If you have any issues feel free to drop me a message on all RSO social media channels or via email. It is easier for me to reply there. Thank you!
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@lytelvin Had to go with some Green Domes since I’m a fan of little green men 
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I don’t screw it down tighter to tune. I loosen the yo-yo back up and rotate the SE. I should’ve clarified that. 
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