i can not do gyroscopic flop. i can get into it easily enough and then once i pull the strings it does not revolve. Instead it dies. i have tried many things so any help will be happily accepted. i am using a dm with a kk so i dont think it is rubbing the sides much
Plastic Whip the yo-yo, grab the back string. I’m assuming that you got to this part so far, so after that just pull, but not too hard! You also have to twist your throwhand a bit to make it rotate.
A KonKave bearing can center the string well - but it doesn’t mean it will always be there to help.
What way(s) do you use?
I do a Trapeze, but a bind way, (not the Brakeaway method because it spins out on me) and I twist my finger inwards, and pull the closest string to me.
Don’t flop for too long, or it will spin out. Do at least 2-3 flops, then dismount before the flop spins out. 
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There are some other topics like this found using the search button.
But yes the main problems are that people pull too hard or are accidently hitting the sides of the yoyo with the string.
i was aware of these topics and searched them beforehand, hence why my question is not the same.
i just tryed the bind way but my problem is that it wil go almost 1/4 a turn and then go back to where i started, causing me to not even be able to get it to turn. but i do like the bind way more. it does seem easier.
Hmmm. I do that way too. Works with my eight8eight. ???
What yoyo did you use?
Happy Throwing! =]
Its coming back to the original position because the strings are rubbing on the sides of the yoyo. Thats all you need to know. A bigger gap will make it easier to prevent this, I can do 20+ flops with my meteor, but struggle with 10 on my pgm.
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ok well i did a little of everything and now i can do it for the most part. now i just have to practice until i can get better.
thanks everyone
Sure thing.
Glad you got it.