As a spinoff of a not-so-popular debate post, (you ask why, I ask why not) I had put into a “Why fixed axle?” thread, that was not welcome there, Id like to clarify my stance of why I think that the Butterfly/Imperial models are more damaging than helpful in getting people into the hobby, without hijacking or offending the other thread.
Unpopular thought: “The butterfly is garbage.”
Should have added “The butterfly is garbage… to an aspiring yoyoer”
It will take quite some doing for me to change my outlook on something I see nearly everyday turn people OFF from yoyoing. (I work at a toy store, and one of the few places to get yoyos in the city) so when I say things like the Butterfly is garbage, Im not just trolling the forum or looking for attention. I see this happen almost daily and it makes me sad.
I understand the place and purpose of fixed axle. I do. My negativity of the butterfly/imperial is based on hands on experience with the populace. They have plenty to teach you and the challenges never stop, but more than discouraging to the aspiring hobbyist. The non-user friendly nature is damaging to the mindset of “is this for me? Is this hobby too hard? Maybe I dont have what it takes” because the classic (dated) design makes stability non existent, you cannot unscrew to get out a knot ( you think a kid is gonna keep a seam ripper in his pocket?) Cotton string do nothing to build confidence of a harder throw, coupled with being forced to pick and prod at knots with makeshift tools (paper clips damage threads making the weak string even weaker) All of this complies into a “Too hard for me” resolve.
To clarify (minus harsh, early morning words), I simply do not see them as appropriate to someone who is: A-just starting out and B-wants to learn 1A style tricks.
Same as a bicycle. If someone wanted to learn how to ride a bicycle, would you make it easy for them, so they get a sense of “Hey, I CAN do this!” with training wheels for added success, stability, and piece of mind, or give them an unstable, difficult to operate advanced model? Which one is going to encourage them mentally that they can in fact do this physically.
This is why I put those specific models on the bottom shelf near the back. While they are marketed as beginner models, they are really for the advanced users. So its not really the yoyos themselves, but what those certain yoyos tend to do to those who might be interested in getting into yoyo. Cause I see those turn new people off faster than anything, and to me, that just sucks. Each one lost is a member of the community that we do not have. And I see PLENTY walk away after trying them and that makes me sad to see.
Is this a hit against fixed axle yoyos? No. Not even almost. Just a voice against the marketing of the most iconic (and damaging) yoyos on the market. They fact they make them so cheap, so crappy, and so difficult to operate, should be considered in their marketing ploy of trying to get people into to yoyoing. Cause I see it happen often, it does not work.
TL/DR - I attribute the duncan butterfly and imperial designs to be responsible for more people getting turned off than turned on the hobby. Directly making countless aspiring hobbyists quit before they ever had a chance to blossom due to the marketing and design of these two classic designs. Marketing as something for the beginner, and designed as something that even a pro struggles to operate properly. Counter productive at best.
What do you think?