Gambit:
Well they are going to say that because they want to sell the new ones, so it’s hard say whether they’re being totally honest. Saying “the old ones were better” won’t sell many throws…
Either way, I think this sums up the problem with this whole debate… the word “better”.
“Better” is such a subjective thing. If you have 2 throws, one that spins slightly longer and is more stable but with no personality, and one that doesn’t perform quite as well but is dead smooth and fantastic to throw, which is the better one? After all, the YYF CZM8 performs very well, but is critisized for it’s lack of personality and robot-like performance… does this make it a good or bad throw?
I had this point illustrated to myself with the Supernova. I love my little Supernova Lite and I use it as my walkaround throw. I also have a fondness for 7075 because of its shinyness, so I figured a 7075 Supernova would be a match made in heaven. So I bought one… and I didn’t like it. The 7075 in this case, and in my eyes, made it worse. However, there will probably be people on here that think that the 7075 Supernova was far better…
There is so much subjectivity in the yoyo world. One person says a yoyo has rubbish spin times, another says they’re amazing. One person says that a yoyo is as stable as Norways economy, someone else says that it tilts at a moments notice.
Performance wise, asking “what’s better, 6061 or 7075” is like asking “what’s better, a Chief or a BVM2”… you’re going to get votes for both sides off different people because all we have to go on are peoples opinions and feelings.
Until we have machines that can somehow measure and quantify velocity/spin times/stability into hard figures, then you’ll never solve this argument. Even then, you’ll never convince everyone…
This. We’re all arguing over whether 7075 is better, when “better” is so subjective. The ACTUAL YOYO DESIGNERS that have commented have said that there is no huge benefit to 7075, what you do with 7075 you can do with 6061. In the end, they’re just different. Some people will like 7075 better and use that, while others will use 6061. Buy witch-ever yoyo you like better.
felipe
August 20, 2013, 4:29pm
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Going to throw the hype card here (it seems it’s fine throwing it anywhere):
7075 is all hype, titanium is the good stuff. :-*
felipe:
Going to throw the hype card here (it seems it’s fine throwing it anywhere):
7075 is all hype, titanium is the good stuff. :-*
I can’t agree with that. Titanium makes a great yoyo, but only whenyou have a great designer behind it.
That is the baffling part about the whole argument Geezer throws down. He is totally dismissive of the fact that it took a gifted set of individuals to come up with these amazing toys. The materials are nothing unless they are put in the right hands. He basically insults every designer in the industry when he dismisses them and attributes how good a yoyo is to something as trivial as the alloy used.
felipe
August 20, 2013, 7:11pm
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I thought I had made it clear it was a joke/sarcasm? The :-* should have given it out.
Wood, plastic, stainless steel, 6061, 7075, brass, titanium, they are all materials/tools to make great yoyos.
anonyo
August 20, 2013, 8:31pm
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YoyoGeezer:
Please; just stop.
I think you’re right. You should stop. You’re not really making a point or case right now.
felipe:
I thought I had made it clear it was a joke/sarcasm? The :-* should have given it out.
Wood, plastic, stainless steel, 6061, 7075, brass, titanium, they are all materials/tools to make great yoyos.
Yeah, I totally missed the sarcasm. Started back to work today after a long summer break. First week of school is always crazy.