I have ideas for unresponsive yoyos that I could draw up and have machined in China. Would anyone care for yoyos like these?
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Yes. Your designs are very innovative. You have more to offer the community than your wood craft as evident by the designs of what youâve already made. Regardless of the medium, the design is key. And you have design down.
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I suppose my concern is that I make what I like and my tastes arenât always popular. I would make a mid sized heavy throw (69g or heavier). Lol. Looks like a recipe for a shelf-sitter, but it would be a real dependable beast.
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I would definitely name them things like âVibeâ and âBrickâ.
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You just described things I like. My 69g E1ns and 71g ILYY Lio are two of my favorite yoyos. They feel good to play and their extra weight gives them a level of performance where youâre not gonna throw them back on the shelf to play a âbetterâ yoyo.
I wanna see heavier designs across the board, and youâve turned some real nice looking plastic unresponsives. CNCing them would take away from the neat novelty of being handmade, but a good design is a good design regardless of how/where itâs produced.
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Iâve been saying that heavier designs are going to make a comeback. They are better in almost every way in my opinion.
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SumoWorthy
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Stoneworthy
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Spinsweighty
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I wouldnât mind a throw that is 69 grams. Usually heavier throws are the ones I use.
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As someone who loves the Kiwi with a ton of adoration, I am fully behind heavier yo-yos.
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69g is a great weight. I have thrown nothing but my 2021 Bettynova since receiving it. This is mostly subconscious. I just reach for that one each time and Iâm sure its because it has that oomph I crave.
Iâm sad I never got a chance to get a TP Kiwi. Iâm sure I would love one of those.
As far as yoyoâs go I find that design has one of the greatest influence on whether or not it feels like a brick on the string.
One of my go to throws is a Yomega Glide Ex. It weighs 67.5 grams but it has the design that allows it to âglideâ across the string. I find the glide has enough rim weight to give it the feeling of power and enough center weight to balance it out.
Another similar throw that I have is the Yomega Groov (2022 edition). It has the same exact specifications as the Glide, but the design is off. All of the weight is placed in the wrong place and makes it feel like a brick on the string. I almost never use the yomega groov.
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A narrow, heavy and heavily rim-weighted organic design will certainly feel brickish. Many heavy organic yoyos donât hold their weight well.
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Iâd be down for sure. I actually need another one YOU made in the collection, but a shmancy machined Spinworthy sounds like fun on a bun.
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iâd love it
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Thereâs actually more to this than just getting a yoyo made. I really donât have the marketing power behind my brand other than a âpeople who know, knowâ kind of thing. Iâm not sure I can shift 250 yoyos on this alone. Itâs something I will need to consider.
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Can it be done cheaper with having them machine delrin? Finding a way to get the cost down to a bare minimum while still being something unique? Finding a way to keep risk as low as possible.
Add in a mystery element and rip off Onedrop mystery idea. Have 10 wooden models along with the 250 production models in different colors. Donât let people pick a color, and make the cost cheap enough to where some people just buy it as a gamble.
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Machining POM yoyos isnât really any cheaper than metal, and more colorways means more expensive. Producing more colors to have a âmysteryâ element would only increase the price. Not to mention Iâd never buy a yoyo at random, I want to pay more to get what I know I want.
If a yoyo has to resort to gimmicks, novelty, and generate âhypeâ to sell, then I donât think thatâs a meaningful design to exist. A yoyo coming out needs a reason to exist. Heavyweight yoyos (69g+) are pretty uncommon on the market, organics in this weight range even less common. That alone would justify something like this being made, because itâs not something that you can just go out and buy a variation on from another company. Wide and light is the trend, I far prefer narrow and heavy because I want maximum spin times and stability.
You should be selling yoyos to people who look at the design, consider what this yoyo is bringing to the table, and having them say âyes, this will be a good yoyo that I want to play more than anything I currently own, and I will want to continue playing this yoyo because it occupies its own specific niche in my collection.â
Why sell people essentially garbage thatâs just going to put back on a shelf and be forgotten about when the next flavor of the month yoyo release happens? Why even bother selling yoyos to people who donât really care or see the value in the design, and instead are just buying it because itâs cheap. Or because theyâre essentially just gambling to get a second yoyo. All of these things are basically just saying âmy design doesnât matter or do anything unique, itâs just another yoyo in a sea of releases.â
If your design is something you can be confident people will appreciate and want to keep playing, because it occupies a specific niche, then itâs worth making. If itâs just going to be âjust another yoyo,â then I think it would be a waste of time and money to put into production.
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Maybe a crowd sourcing option?
Put up a design idea, pre-order plus 10%?
Us that follow you would be in on the ground floor. It could be a start with reduced risk.
This isnt your first rodeo either. Im sure a lot of us have confidence in your abilities.