I’ve been working on My OpenThrow project, one of the most important parts of OpenThrow was to be able to support all styles of yo-yo. Unresponsive, I was able to work out just by getting the bearing seat right. It only had to spin smooth and long. Modern responsive, I just needed a slightly shorter bearing support and my seat was interchangeable between styles.
When I put that c-sized bearing in, what was essentially a raider, it looped almost straight down. If I replace that with loop 360 parts, the sunrise spacer kit I have, it works, you see it in the video.
My question is, what needs to change to make a c-sized bearing work? Is it the diameter of the yo-yo? They didn’t seem that different.
I think your issue is gonna be rpm. Smaller diameter will go more turns per minute faster and unlike unresponsive you don’t need those initial high rpm to last very long with looping. Usually the issue with small bearings on unresponsive is you get nice crisp binds and high initial rpm but it quickly loses steam. However on a responsive throw and loopers you will just regen by the time that high rpm starts to fall off.
No idea how to make that physics equation different. I know larger diameter yoyo only means slower wind. We saw this live with the freshly dirty dinner plate 3d printed yoyo at Indy states. The massive diameter size of a dinner plate resulted in a comically sluggish response with a standard c bearing in a stem system. Literally you do a bind and have to wait 10 seconds for the yoyo to return to your hand.
Maybe change the weight distro to add more to the center weight? No idea how else that will affect the other characteristics but should theoretically help with rpms. Which i agree is probably the problem
Yeah, the dinner plate came to mind. Actually, the dinner plate confirmed something that I had suspected. That yo-yos behave similar to gearing on a bicycle. That is the “ratio” results in more tourque the same way as shifting to a high gear on a bike. So you can get a lot of potential power, like the dinner plate, but you need way more input power to put it down.
Yeah, this was also my thought. The first thing I did, was I had also made my design a sort of silly cylinder shape, so I tapered it more like the loop360 was and made the weight lighter as I didn’t realize I had added 10g. I thought I could move the power band so it didn’t need such a high gearing. This yo-yo does punching bags like nobody’s business, and they punch up, almost annoyingly so. I think the problem is I went from gear ratio 1, to maybe 3 and need to be in gear ratio 30 to have the loops go up.