I’ve posted on this a few times and it isn’t really something I can describe but it’s awesome compared to any other metal. Just totally different and I like it a lot.
I felt the same way…just a special yo-yo all the way.
I think it’s funny that you bring up the price tag stookie yet I bet you’ve bought many clyws which come very close to the ricochets price tag and are made of aluminum
So, about $150? The only point I want to make, is that the comparable shaped aluminum bape2/viszilla cost $150. I paid $143 shipped for the Ricochet…no tax, no shipping…all included $143. I bought it here in the USA. I rarely don’t buy from YYE, but that was a steal, so I bought it. For $7 less, I got a free multitool, extra bearing, extra string, collectible interlocking case, and a yo-yo I can bounce off the ground when I do my tricks, without getting a ding. I can also roll it across the ground and spark it. I got a more durable yo-yo for $143. Not to mention that thing feels unlike anything I’ve ever tried…and I have 175 throws currently. I’ve thrown that viszilla, and it plays nothing like the Ricochet. Due to it being titanium? Just maybe. So, I have just seen a lot of posts about price of the Ricochet lately. Even if you buy the Ricochet outside of a sale, you are getting the benefits of what I described…and still worth it every bit.
Right…but the $150 yoyo would’ve also been considerably less than $150 during the sale. We’re still just having the same two arguments that are unrelated. Your liking the yoyo or thinking it’s worth the price is not up for debate where I’m concerned, and it also doesn’t disprove anything I’m saying either.
and I very much doubt the difference is due to titanium. Titanium is not magic. If you don’t exploit its properties in the design, it’s just expensive metal.
Minus the fact that it sparks of course
Gosh. I’d love to spark a throw.
I have. I’ve bought some of the most expensive, and acclaimed, aluminum yoyos you can possibly buy for about $50 less than the Ricochet costs.
And this is really my point. Why pay more? Those aluminums are fantastic. They’re the best of the best. So, instead, I’m going to spend even more for a budget titanium that cuts design costs at every turn? It’s a downgrade, to me, because the yoyos function is dictated by its shape and design, not it’s material. If I’m going to spend extra for titanium, I want the craziest, most awesome design that could never be done in aluminum. Something that represents excellence in the same way those CLYW’s do in their market. Does it cost 3x as much? Yes. But, I don’t see how I’m gaining anything by spending even a little bit more without also demanding the design offer something more too.
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Exactly. Just because something CAN be made from titanium doesn’t necessarily mean it needs to be. It is similar to companies that plate yoyos in gold, platinum, or rhodium. Does it enhance the play in any way? Not really.
The sparking just feels wrong to me. Not saying you should never do it or that others are wrong for doing it. I was just raised to take care of your stuff. Scratches will happen to toys but intentionally causing damage was not an option as far as my parents were concerned… and that was the lecture I got when my dad caught me strapping bottle rockets and cherry bombs to my G.I. Joe’s. ;D
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But the Platinum Anti Yo’s are the best yoyos in the world! 
The way I see it this throw is for people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford a titanium throw. Since YYF is usually about spreading yo-yo fever to everyone throughout the world, perhaps they thought, hey other companies are making titanium throws, but not many people are able to buy them because of price and limited quantity. Why not make a titanium throw for the people who want to one but usually can’t get one. Sure they didn’t make use of titaniums qualities, but this is because they probably didn’t want costs to go up from testing and prototyping, they wanted a titanium that most people can afford, so they went with a trusted design in order to cut costs so that the price wouldn’t be as high for us. So perhaps this throw wasn’t made for people like Stookie or Saintrobyn, who are able to get the expensive and more extreme shaped titanium throws, but rather for the yo-yoers who normally can’t get one and really want one. Like they say a Porsche Boxster is a poor man’s Porsche, but it still is a Porsche. The Ricochet might be a titanium yo-yo that doesn’t use titanium qualities to its full extent, but it is still a titanium yo-yo.
Wow! Just got home from 11 hour road trip and saw my thread gained 5 pages in one day so had to read it all only to find I just reread what was stated in the ricochet review thread.
I respect each of your two stances but have to really disagree with stookies main point in continueing past his first couple posts. Titanium is completely different than any other metal being used to make yoyos right now so no matter how good the other material is, the feel will not be anywhere near the same. If a player likes the feel of titanium then no other throw will stand up to the titaniums feel no matter what. So if it plays good and has that feel then the thrower will have two options, either spend the extra cash and get it or just buy something that doesn’t have that indescribable feeling of having a yoyo that is a part of your hand.
I’ll gladly give an honest review of other TIs in comparison to the ricochet once I acquire them but I know the feel will be the same or very similar between them all. But once it leaves the hand it better perform better than my $200 yyf or the cutting edge technology of that $500 throw will be a bust in a major way;therefore, making all of stookie’s posts moot. I just don’t see any design that will make a TI play much better than the ricochet. Sure there will be slight differences but not $300 worth, and that won’t keep me from buying one. I’ll get the feel of titanium and have a slightly better throw than my pretty purple/blue one that I got for under half the price. But the feel will be my main reason for buying it along with all TIs.
But thanks for a refresh of the review thread. 
So that’s why you sound so sad. Couldn’t even learn the joy of destroying something.
Sparking a titanium yoyo will not ruin them. Even if you do it a lot (like twice a day for a year), it will still play just fine, and vibe free.
I don’t see how weight distribution is relevant with titanium designs. Plastic/Metal compositions can get a much more hardcore distribution than an all titanium can, and it is much cheaper to make. So don’t argue that the special attribute of titanium yoyos is the achievable distribution.
You buy titanium because you like the feel and look of it, because you like durability, because you want to spark it, or because you, like me, think it’s a special metal to own, simple as that.
This is where I differ. I understand that you feel you’re paying extra to see differences in design that can’t normally be achieved. I’m paying extra for a novelty It’s the same reasn the fire yoyo which played terrible and cut strings was $150. You could freaking light it on fire or for example you could take the light up fhz. It’s more expensive and plays worse than the normal fhz because of the novelty that it lights up. This is terrible for weight distribution but the masses think it’s a whole lot cooler than the normal one which is why I still have it. Although the performance aspect is nice. It’s not why I’m buying this yoyo.
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And here is where that line of thinking falls apart. One Drop was able to make a titanium that used the features of titanium AND clock in at $30 less than the Ricochet. The Soveriegn may not be a competition yoyo but it is my benchmark for titanium yoyos because it shows that it can be done well without breaking the bank. On a similar note, the Magnum is my benchmark for magnesium yoyos and the Torrent is one of my benchmarks for smoothness.
Ok a few things:
- where ever did you get the impression that I am sad? I am far from it.
- I have thrown many titaniums in my time, I really do not need you lecturing me on what happens when you spark them, I have done so with Brett’s Sov. when he got it and know full well that a little Mothers polish buffs it out somewhat. Still besides the point that you are intentionally scratching it.
3)your lack of knowledge on weight distribution is so staggering that it boggles the mind. Show me a plastic that can have the walls as thin as a credit card and still survive smacking a hardwood floor. Even an aluminum would fold like a pop can. - you are right, you buy it for the feel on the string. When done well, a titanium yoyo feels quite a bit different from the aluminum yoyos on the market. If it didn’t it wouldn’t be that special of a metal. This is a yoyo after all, buying a yoyo because the metal feels special in the hand is silly. Yoyos spend most of their time in the air and on the string, does it really matter that the titanium gives you a tingly feeling when you hold it?
I don’t understand any of this. It matters what the metal feels like? How could that possibly matter? I have titanium yoyos. 4 of them. They feel cold and hard, like metal. I really don’t feel this palpable difference due to material and I don’t understand the mechanism by which this would even work. Heck, a yoyo isn’t even touching me when I use it.
Titanium yoyos even weigh the same as aluminum yoyos, so the sense of “density” by feel is really just…I don’t know, almost ridiculous to me unless someone out there is so strong that aluminum feels squishy to them. This idea that it offers something inherently different without being shaped in an inherently different way does not add up. The materials are too similar.
The design matters. That’s all there is to it. It’s all that matters between aluminums, and it’s all that matters if you make a yoyo out of titanium, gold, diamonds, or pixie dust. You might want to own a pixie dust throw, but the difference in its play vs. any other yoyo will be directly related to its weight and shape.
Yes but not unicorn blood. Yoyos made from solidified unicorn blood are pure magic. 
Those are your statements above, so yes, I did discredit your argument as soon as you compared the Ricochet to the bape2/viszilla. You brought up that $150 aluminum as a similar design to the Ricochet. That does not play anything near like the Ricochet, and does not offer the same features of durability, sparking ability, or extras. There are not two unrelated arguments going on at all. I made the point clearly, and countered an argument that you made earlier. I can’t dispute your opinion about the ricochet being underwhelming, but it’s just your opinion. It overwhelmed me…and I own one.
I specifically excluded unicorn blood, and dragon’s tears, for this reason.
No, you discredited an argument you made up. Even in your fantasy argument, your sample size is one yoyo. Since the Bape isn’t like the Ricochet, then certainly no aluminum yoyo could ever be like the Ricochet because the Bape is aluminum! Proof if I’ve ever seen it. This debating sure is hard…
The truth of the matter is you have yet to do anything but dance around the argument I’m making because there’s no way for you to argue it. You just like the Ricochet, and arguing, too much to simply concede the facts that yyf’s spokesperson wrote himself. Your answer to everything is “but it’s fun!” and that doesn’t mean anything to me.