Go hug a… adult tiger
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Close enough…
It’s kinda funny how this thread became an example of what Zach was talking about in the first place - “yo-yoing is fun; it’s a toy,people, let’s all lighten up!”
I started yo-yoing again about 5 years ago when I quit smoking. After smoking for 30 years, I had to have something to keep my hands busy when I wanted a cigarette, and something to relieve stress. I may not have looked happy while I was doing it, but I picked yo-yoing in the first place because it is fun! In our spare time, we only do stuff because it makes money, because it improves us somehow, or because it’s fun. If competing is fun for you, do it! If competing is not fun for you, don’t! I wouldn’t presume to tell anyone to quit doing it, but if yo-yoing isn’t fun for you, for goodness sake, find something that is, and do that.
If I’m understanding Zach right, I think the “feel” he gets from the teams has to do with why the companies have the teams to begin with. Companies have teams to sell yo-yos. Most companies are trying to sell very expensive yo-yos to serious throwers. Their teams compete seriously, and their videos tend to be serious. “Come buy our yo-yos!” Duncan does some of that too, but for 50 years Duncan teams have mostly been about promoting yo-yos to the public, showing non-yo-yoers how fun yo-yoing is. “It’s fun, come buy one!”
In closing, here’s something from a man that has been sponsored,made his share of money, and gotten his share of free yo-yos, and still thinks we need to lighten up and have fun.
"http://www.youtube.com/v/JxmWpx5Lmhs?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0
Have Fun,
Java
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I’m still disappointed at the fact that everyone keeps saying that yoyoing “has” to be fun or you’re doing something wrong. So not true.
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Let me add to it. Some people want cars just so they can “have fun”, going over to friends, school, meeting up places, going to movies without mom, ect.
Others buy cars solely to race, be very competitive and to win those races. Both of these reasons are fine, both end up with the person buying a car. If I said that racers should stop driving because they “aren’t using it to hang out with friends”, that would sound odd, would’nt it?
I agree on that though, I recall that being an old saying for yoyoing I would hear around the 98-2000 era during THP and other large teams.
Fun and yoyoing pretty much has to go together, Doesn’t make sense to do it otherwise, at least in my opinion.
i agree with everything you said but its still opinion. people take every sport differently. and i dont think you should knock YYF players without knowing them personally. i dont even throw YYF im just saying.
This debate resonates with me on many levels. It disheartens me to see members getting “catty” with one another and mincing words. But, that is the nature of internet forums. Sadly, yoyo forums are not immune to this.
In Zach’s defense, He intended for his post to be advice to “young” yoyoers as a warning against putting too much emphasis on becoming sponsored. I relate to this sentiment and it’s similarity to “young” bands that are only concerned with getting signed to a record label. It’s a reminder to not put the cart before the horse. Just as musicians should strive for making good music before reaching for a record deal, one should strive to be a good yoyoer before setting their sights on getting a sponsorship from a yoyo manufacturer. However, If setting your sights on a sponsorship makes you work harder and get better, more power to you and best wishes.
Yes, yoyos are toys by design. But, yoyoing can be whatever you make of it. It can be a hobby, a business, or just a way to meet new people. Even if you can’t always call it fun, it’s an invaluable stress reliever and in some cases it can even suppress other addictions. It’s such a wonderful device. Thanks Pedro! you’re the man.
My point is, I agree with Zach because he’s a yoyoer after my own heart. I understand that when he said “you should quit yoyo” he would never intend for anyone to take him literally. It’s called “irony” so, if you’re offended, you probably missed the point.
We are all here for at least one common reason… WE LOVE YOYOING. It’s obvious we do, because it has created much strong debate…and VALID debate.
“Will our dispute over what is right
Always generate more heat than light?”
-Jeremy Post (Black Eyed Sceeva)
That doesn’t specifically apply reasons for yoyoing. He could be doing it to have fun and still have a condescending attitude. If they’re mean thats just what kind of person they are, and just because there mean on a yoyo forum doesn’t mean they’re mean because of the reasons they’re yoyoing or yoyoing itself.
You got it dude. I was just thinking about how I forgot to mention that in my previous response.
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sooo.
How bout them bears?
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Da. Baers.
Daaaaa
Bears
Thank you so much for this.
Chubby lovin’ is awesome. Check out wheel of penalty at WYYC for more fun.
1.Stand
2.up
3.SHUT
4.UP
5.and
6.throw
7. Dude
Buddy jim’s 7 word recap brought to you by
DA BEARS.
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Yoyoing doesn’t “have” to be fun. When people first start, it may be frustrating, but when you get it, then it can become fun. Learning new things can be exciting too. That being said, it can also be painful. I’m sure almost everyone has experienced a bad knot. You will do things wrong, but that can make new tricks, or even styles. That’s where the fun comes from IMO. If people quit, it’s their choice… it happens.
That’s not what he was saying. He was saying that the motivation, the driving reason, for someone to be yoyoing doesn’t have to be fun itself. Self-improvement, addiction management, coordination training, socialization, making beautiful art—these are some legitimate reasons to throw that may be rewarding enough without being ‘fun’. In other words, for some people the fact that it can be fun is merely an added bonus.
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no words can describe how epic that video was
well you should allow other people to have their opinion, if you or anyone doesn’t think it’s fun to do but decide to do it anyway, why should anyone care in the end?
but this
this is the point, when someone is uber competitive with a condescending attitude, there’s obviously something wrong, a condescending attitude probably comes from some sort of “malaise” (in french, sorry) that is not dealt with properly and turns into something negative.
this is what I mean by “not having fun”
I should have said “if you’re not happy with yoyoing, you’re doing it wrong”
some people are obviously not happy because they sound (or read) frustrated, on their nerves and condescending about yoyoing. Now see, how ridiculous it is only to read this sentence. “condescending about yoyoing”. just by reading it, one can tell there’s something wrong, and these two words have nothing to do together.
I was on the chat the other day, talking, asking questions, then I nearly got insulted because I asked a question about concave bearing, this is wrong, one should never come as far as insulting people on a matter of yoyoing.
Some people find yoyoing very deep (and I’m one of em), some love to compete, some just like to throw it around and have fun showing off to the kids around the block. some use it to quit smoking (I should have) or to releave stress, this is right
but some start to discuss about yoyo matters and take it waaay to seriously, insulting people who show different opinions or who just are asking beginner/silly questions. I hope the guy I’m thinking about will recon himself here as it’s also a message to him (and basically the reason I don’t chat here anymore)
and this is wrong, when it comes to thinking that the next guy is a jerk because he doesn’t see yoyo the way you do, you’re doing it wrong.
so instead of writing this long text (which I did anyway), I wrote “if you’re not having fun, you’re doing it wrong”
the word “fun” had a wider meaning than just “fun/hahaha/rotfl”
hope it was more clear this time.
but yes, this thread is a perfect example, counter example actually, and gives a fair point to the OP. As this is a yoyo related discussion, it should be relaxed, but it’s not and for no reason
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YES!!! Thank you for saying what I failed to say 3 replies in a row! You really understand the concept of what Zach was trying to get across. Very impressive, especially since you got far more of the actual meaning than most of the English-native speakers around here.
Oh wow. I remember having these thoughts in a couple of threads. I never had the ability to put it into words, but I have had feelings of why all the hate. I think all of us or many of us face this kind of lashing out atleast once whether by others dealing it thoughtless shots to us, or by us being the attacker without realizing it. I guess it’s just important to self evaluate. Ask yourself did I lash out at someone for no reason. If so work to fix it, and if you don’t the opening statement said quit. Like thumper said if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all.