Well its a good setup for semi-responsive for sure. 
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I need to play with my workhorse more. I was lucky and found a space wagon version on a BST listing a couple months ago. Around the same time I also got weekender and then a couple weeks later the Plasm came out and that changed everything. I haven’t hardly played with anything else since. Plasm hands down is my favorite modern responsive yoyo. My skills aren’t great but it just feels so right, from the shape to the weight to the amount of responsiveness it’s just so good. I have a purple and lazer fade but I’d like to track down a coke bottle green one. Definitely plan on buying a couple more on the next release.
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MR85 really is my favorite for straight 0A.
Workhorse is great for being able to do 0A and 1A, it’s a Workhorse for sure. Not better at 0A than the MR85 imo, but the ability to do both so well is why it shines imo
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Would love to hear your thought in general but also on the ones you mentioned as I’ve been eyeing a few of them up.
Great info, thanks for sharing. As a late comer it’s nice to see how much thought went into it.
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My workhorse goes on and off between seeing daily carry and not seeing play for a while. At home i never really play it, cause ive got my plasm for 0a right there, and my theodore and firecracker for responsive 1a.
Workhorse really shines at being able to do a bit of everything responsive, but that ends up being it sitting on the shelf while i carry an unresponsive, and not seeing any play at home
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I keep coming back to my Space Wagon Workhorse. I’ve been EDC’ing the Weekender for the FS cups. It’s just enough wider as well that it’s “safe” for me. The Plasm is also awesome. I love that it’s plastic not metal if I want to go that way.
It’s the fidget spin aspect that keeps my workhorse shelved. I also have to constantly lube the 5mm. That said, I do really love it - and want to carry it. I pulled out Andy’s FS caps again - when I first used them I liked the spin - but felt they made it very heavy (54g without and 63g with). But I’ve swapped in a cleaned 4mm Amazon D and slapped the caps back on. I’m going to show it some love and see how it goes. My 0A game sucks - a basic stall is all I get - but I want to learn 0A. I do like that it’s a great toss and catch and can dabble in 1A.
@Pun1sh3R - how different is the Operator V2 compared to the V1? Not that I’ve played either - just curious. FOMO says I should jump in on the pre-buy but I’m not a good enough player to give any feedback of value - and my wallet says no - so still debating.
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To help with this, and any others who might be sitting on the fence.
Being part of the proto v1 run, I’m excited to see the v2 adjustments. As is, it’s about one of the best performing organics I’ve ever played with, even after the honeymoon phase. From my understanding, the changes are going to be very minor. Feedback from me was pretty much the following:
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Honestly, I wouldn’t change much, if anything, about the Operator at this point. I absolutely love everything about this yo-yo. The design has that bubbly, comfortable rounded organic feel that I wouldn’t want to mess with. It’s already perfect from a hand-feel.
The grind finish? Phenomenal! It’s got a palm grind capability that screams killer finish, and thumb grinds are super smooth and easy.
As for the response, it’s perfect. Tight binds, no slipping, exactly what you want in a yoyo. The matador spikes are hands down the best I’ve ever used, I can’t stop matador spinning it and I absolutely love it. Pull starts and matador spins legitimately feel like cheating, haha, it’s great.
Overall, it reminds me a bit of the Bathysphere, a high performing organic that’s just nice and well rounded (pun not intended), which I already love, but the Operator edges it out in my book because it is a little less centerweight feeling for me. It does tilt a little from time to time, but honestly, it helps me focus on correcting bad habits. That’s not a dealbreaker at all.
If we shipped this yoyo as-is today, I’d be happy. The shape, feel, grind, weight, spike, and response are nearly perfect as they stand, which is incredible for a first proto. It has something about it that makes it special in this realm, like the Bathysphere, and Butterball.
My only tiny nitpick is the occasional tilt, but that’s probably more on me than the yoyo. If there is a way to add just a smidge more rim weight without any worry of changing everything else I’m playing right now, that’s cool, if not, I’m on board with team ship it!
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From there (and other feedback), we seemed to come to that agreement to still overall keep that old-school kind of feel, but modernize just a tad further, and adjust the wall ever so slightly, and with a little more rim-weight, to push it slightly more modern.
Just a little more forgiving, and with great modern play, but still keeping that old-school feel and mentality of the YYBC that makes things familiar and nostalgic.
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Yo! Is it too late!? I forgot about this. I definitely want in!!!
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This is a common misconception. IMO, It’s actually extremely helpful to have players of ALL skill levels try and give input on any design.
When I joined the design team for the workhorse, I felt like an imposter. I “wasn’t good enough” to be giving input, let alone “help” design a yoyo. But that experience showed me that it’s not all about skill level.
The idea is we want EVERYONE to buy this yoyo. If we only get input from the best players, you’re going to end up with a much different yoyo.
Plus, this is what’s great about YYBC. It’s open to anyone and everyone, regardless of skill level, age, etc.
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I’ve been eyeing the Firecracker for response 1A play. Are you using a flat c or narrow c in your setup? What’s your overall thoughts and is there anything other throw you’d compare it to?
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Ok. The tides shifted and I’m in…
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@Yodaddyo and @Son-of-Morris pushed me in - put me on the list please.
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I run the greased up flat c bearing it came with. The only yoyo i have that I can compare it to is the theodore, which has basically the same outer dimensions, but a narrower gap. I do like the Theodore more for the more reliable response, but i play both just as often
Its fairly forgiving letting you give it a bit more slack than the workhorse or the theodore before it starts responding, which is nice for learning and not busting your knuckles, but does result in binding being necessary at times unless you really grease it up, but then you lose more spin time.
I think i recall tyler mentioning plans to get a d-bearing version out, which might help make the response snappier, so if you want a snappy response id wait, but if you’re cool with it being on the unresponsive end of responsive, the c bearing is super fun
So I forgot to upload this in the “What Did You Get in The Mail” part when I got it, I got this with my purple Plasm as well. But boy howdy does it match well with the YoYo holder I’ve got. Perfect match I’d say.
This is my Hello Kitty Butterfly XT
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Same here. My RBC, PLTPS, Weekender, El Tio, all get more play due to the FS aspect. However, I did 3d Print some of the FS caps for the workhorse that @AudreySickburn designed and they work amazingly. Definitely recommend getting your hands on some.
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Yeah - if you kept reading - I have some. Wish they were lighter - but put them back on and am giving it another go.
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For some reason I didn’t associate “Andys FS caps” with the 3d printed caps. They do add a bit of weight, for sure.
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Gotcha! @AudreySickburn is Andy. They are awesome and do some pretty dope prints. I have several of their creations, and have printed a few on my own as well - but not nearly as nice as when they print them.
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Andy is sending me a waffle stomper soon and I can’t wait to compare the quality difference between their prints and mine lol. My PLA prints are ok but my PETG prints need tuning.
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