I have wanted to ask some yo-yo questions…. that I believe I should already know… but have not ever discussed with anyone of any authority to give me the answers. Form authority I know how reliable I take the chance with you guys and gals.
anodizing
The darker the color makes the Ano thicker? is time a factor in thickness?
Reason
My black OD Panorama has what feels like almost a hard coat
weight distribution
Center weight =
Rim weight =
Reason
I have Ti Orb side effects what ever put them in, they smooth any vibe in the throw completely out. I also have an assortment of Brass side effects that do not smooth throws out to the same effect if that makes any sense???
String length and yo-yo size progression
So does or did this happen to anyone else ?
When I was new to unresponsive, throwing, I made irrational assumption at the time that to be able to do complex tricks I needed to have a smaller yo-yo and longer string. Length to the top of my sternum. This resulted in lots of older dinged up throws 2010 888 and a red and silver Punchline Repeater. Since that time I have come back to 4 fingers above the belly button is where the loop ends with a 1 to 1.5 inch loop.
Yo-yo size just faded away when I started throwing larger throws I still prefer a smaller 50 - 55.
Reason
I picked up a throw that had an older longer string and it felt just too much, sloppy… felt if I had just listened to the yo-yo videos that kept saying around the belt line area was a good place to have string length. I may have progressed faster with less damaged classic throws.
That is what you are suppose to do with throws play them even if it damages them. Said to me by an older wiser happier player than me at the time.
I will look forward to responses to my questions, stories and anyone else’s questions.
Everyone have a great 1st week of the new throw year.
Trying not to take shape into consideration I know shape will change things a bit more as wider throws tend to change this making the explanation a more nuanced one.
Center weight is less stable than rim weight. So your yoyo is more likely to tilt off axis. This isnt a horribke thing it just makes you concentrate a bit better. Also if you are trying to manipulate the angle of the yoyo, the rim weight goes counter to that. With side effects just roll with the ones you like. Also, the heavier ones will make your RPMs go up. So if I want more spin power I go with brass, personally, because of the weight.
I try to go fir the shortest string a yoyo feels good in. My micro yoyos all have pretty short string. If it is narrow and hard to hit the gap I go shorter. I dont mind long string on my wide yoyos, BUT sternum seems like way too much string IMO. I dont really use anything longer than my bellybutton personally.
Color does not determine thickness during anodize, it is simply a dye in the oxide layer during processing.
Thickness on Type II anodize is typically negligible as the common etching removal is the same as the build up with both Class 1 (clear / no dye) and Class 2 (with dye), measuring before and after processing.
Type III (Hard Anodize) on the other hand typically has a thickness of around .0016” (half penetration and half buildup so roughly .0008” per surface or .0016” on a diameter, both Class 1 (clear / no dye) and Class 2 (with dye).
These values are based off parts I send to local vendors, and they tend to vary depending on vendor, processing time, power, base finish, and a dozen other factors.
Edit - You can specify thickness if it is necessary and you can also have areas masked, like bearing seats and / or threads if needed however if you know you are using Type III, tight tolerance features like the bearing seat diameter and thread pitch diameter can be compensated to allow room for these surfaces to grow in size. Thread pitch diameters change by roughly 4x the plating thickness on 60 degree v-threads.
Thank you I appreciate the in-depth dive into the subtle differences.
I would guess it can come down to an asking for specific thickness and the Anodizer preferences and knowing how tight the tolerance are on a specific throw.
I thought that the thickness was going to depend on allot of different factors. Thank you
It just seems my black panorama is so thick even fees different than other throws weight wise.
You will see more deviation on size of the base material/part due to deviation during machining than you will from plating, especially anodize. It is more likely that assembly was just made from parts with more material, rather than thicker anodize.
