@yogurt
you are not good sneaking
you make me sick
peak 2 10/10, you just want your yoyo to be expensive
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Iā¦I will be back!
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@unklesteve,please,make another run as close as possible to the third round of the OG Peak at a good price so that all players and collectors can enjoy having one.
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10/10 Thread-- Who Started It? 
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because it sux
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You nailed it.
I feel like Iāve addressed this before in a few different places but I donāt have the time to try and hunt that down so Iāll see if I can paraphrase myself:
The problem with the Peak 2 is that we fixed the Peak, and as yoyospirit so aptly explained, people didnāt want us to fix it.
The yoyo industry is driven by yoyo play, and yoyo play has gotten harder and more complicated. So the equipment has improved to meet that level of play, and as companies weāre constantly trying to sell more product and doing this means embracing ānew and improvedā as a primary motivator for most yoyo buyers. I can go on for days about why I think this is a bad thing, but itās pretty accurate and so as companies we get easily caught up in this idea that we have to constantly push everything forward. So it was a pretty natural and obvious thought that āpeople love and miss the Peak, letās fix the obvious problems with it and release a new oneā and for the most part the most part people really enjoyed that. We sold a ton of them, and itās a good yoyo.
But it doesnāt have that sort of naĆÆve crappiness that gives the Peak what some of you refer to as āsoulā, so instead of having these sort of junky attributes that force you to work around them, it just plays as it should and you donāt have to think too hard about it or adjust to it in anyway. Thereās no friction to be had there, and because of that thereās nothing particularly memorable about the way it plays. And what people loved the most about the Peak is that it was memorable.
Iām not sure I would say we bungled that, because the Peak 2 is still a very good yoyo and I like the way it plays and a lot of other people did too. But we definitely misunderstood the appeal and where it was coming from.
So, weāll fix that next year with the P3ak.
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I can guarantee @unklesteve does not think the Peak sucks just because it was made before he was on Team CLYW.
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i think steve said the opposite, actually ā that the peak 2 was unmemorable and that the original peak was memorable because it had its flaws
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i donāt think anyone said you werenāt allowed to like the peak, why is there so much malice here? letās be civil, itās a good discussion
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you are right @daosyn
i miss read the english
i am sorry and rescind
what i say not what i mean with clyw era statement, it was an idea accident
i am sorry to everyone, i just have deep passion for design of all thing, instrument to yoyo
i think passion discussion is good and improve community and product you get
without feedback like we provide p3ak could be peak2 again
i still donāt think many agree that peak1 likers are naive and peak1 junky,
iappreciate Mr unklesteeve for taking time to chime in with expert knowledge of concept
goodbye
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If Steve fell off a 127 story building and landed directly on his head and broke every bone in his body and was in a coma for 11 years and had 99% amnesia when he finally woke up, he would still know more about yo-yoās Then youāll ever learn, If you live to be 920 years old.
Obviously, we all have opinions, and as I mentioned to you before which I still donāt think you understand, I totally agree that youāre completely welcome to have your own opinions no matter how misaligned they might be.
But that being said when we all say things about yo-yoās for the most part, we are giving just our opinions.
When uncle Steve speaks about specific yo-yos of which he has comprehensive experience and knowledge of, I would consider that less of an opinion and more Along the lines Of factual insight.
Steve Brown is a mastermind with a depth of knowledge of yo-yoās at an elevated level that you will never reach.
What he said about the peak, regardless of who he was or wasnāt working for and what he said about the peak two or not just opinions, but irrefutable facts based on comprehensive extensive and intensive research and field test testing.
The fact that he chimed into this thread is just a simple matter of him, wanting to curtail the lunacy and the ignorance that is usually associated when comparing these two yo-yos with one another.
Having changed his position in the yo-yo puzzle has pretty much moved him out of the bright lights.
But that being said, Steve stands and nobodyās shadow, and when he talks about yo-yos, instead of considering how to be polite, but still disagree with his perspective is not a good look
The better position to take is to listen when Steve speaks and understand that what he said is something that you need to be able to grasp and accept.
Me and Steve go way back way way back and I know people and Iāll tell you one thing, Steve is no poser. Heās a player. Heās an innovator. Heās an educator. And if I said 30 more positive things about Steve, Iād still be forgetting something.
CLYW Has got some serious projects planned for the next couple years and Steveās right in the middle of it with both feet.
No doubt
i already apologize instantly to unklesteve and rescind any of what i say before you even thought your ramble in your head, and regognize he is industry GOAT. I would know, I have pay him thousands of dollars for his yoyo. let me have passion and make mistake and apologize for it instantly as i did and move along
im not reading ur book again though after you were so rude first three time
anyway
we all die on battlefield for @Snoopy sick satisfaction 
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I think you are misinterpreting his point. But maybe I am.
I think the point is that the Peak was a product of the knowledge/experience/manufacturing capabilities of its time. All of these advanced leading up to Peak 2, which made the necessarily previous versions ānaĆÆve crappinessā, to put it in a tongue-in-cheek way.
It turned out that original Peak fans missed the idiosyncrasies that resulted from the state-of-the-art at its time more than they welcomed improvements that were intended to make Peak 2 compatible with expectations of its time.
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very well said @hsb thank you
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I donāt care what you read and I donāt care what you donāt read and at this point I donāt care what you say because as smart as you think you are, youāre not as bright as you thought you were. You mean nothing to me. Go find a mirror and talk to yourself.
And quit deleting your replies. Every time you delete a reply that shows that you spoke before you thought what you were meaning. Think you replies out first and then post them up. This poor isnāt like a chessboard with a time clock in the middle. You donāt have to just jump on the send button and come up with his replies that youāre gonna delete in another 10 minutes. Youāre making the mistake of responding emotionally instead of responding in a more well-thought-out manner.
If you take more time to actually understand, youāll spend less time trying to explain why you didnāt understand.
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Thereās a ship of theseus type thing going on I think. If you address all of the performance deficiencies youāll end up with a low walled competition bi-metal.
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Cry me a riverā¦
I will accept your gesture as an early Christmas present