Why do you love organics?

Yo-Yo Dad here. I am kind of new at the yo-yo scene. My son and I have been learning together for 2 years now and I still can’t land a neck stole consistently while he is doing 2.0 hooks and 360 tricks. lol
We have s lot of bi-metal yo-yos and they just keep getting wider and easier to catch. But I have tried some organics and some bi-metal organics but mostly in mono. I feel like it’s fun and all but they don’t spin as long and not as stable. They are very hard to do horizontal tricks and can’t really do a DNA on it. What do you enjoy about the organics beside it’s more comfortable to catch? What’s with the obsession with A-rt Grail? What trick or combo do you run through when you are throwing organic yo-yos? :smiley:

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In my experience with organics in general - there’s a lot of nostalgia going on as many of the throws we had back then were organic shaped. They’re also comfortable on the catch and tend to handle more chill. Organics are the “comfort food” of yoyo.

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as someone who wasn’t throwing long enough to understand the nostalgia factor, it really does come down to comfort and a change of pacing.

with organics, you aren’t trying to hit the craziest moves but perhaps the craziest state of flow…?

i really like the change of pace and the comfort of the catch, i feel like organics tend to have a bit more personality and their most performant counterparts

i like running repeaters and slack tricks, stuff that emphasizes flow over speed

i feel like organics are for the thrower to enjoy while competitive shapes are for the audience to enjoy (subjective ofc)

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I don’t, they’re nice but i only need a few.

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This is me

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its hard to explain. they seem to have more personality in play to me. its not just gonna let you do whatever you want and land the trick first attempt, you have to figure out how it behaves and finesse it. you have to earn the trick a little more , practice it to get it to look right a little more. and you have to adjust to the yoyo instead of adjusting the yoyo to you. it is good for building smooth technique, tighter string alignment, etc. to me landing the trick, and knowing/mastering the trick to make it look great are not the same. I also don’t care about doing horizontal but i do look for organics that are better at doing fingerspins when i want to dna. With practice you can dna alot of yoyos you would not expect to be capable, but that is you adjusting to the yoyo, not the other way around. to me that is a skill improvement. I also believe that skill can over come most minor yoyo design limitations. you could get an easier yoyo, but you can also practice harder and earn the trick. be able to do your tricks on almost any yoyo ( within reason) instead of only this one because of its specs.

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doubling down on this right here

organics aren’t built to do horizontal or crazy constant banger elements

i think my personal favorite example of this in the modern era is shota saga

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Organic us round like me which feels familiar.

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this performance is so mesmerizing wow

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I don’t have any nostalgia with organics, I just like the way feel in the hand and I find them more aesthetically pleasing as well.

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In general I’m not an organics fan. I have quite a few, acquired mostly in an attempt to find one or two that I really like. And I do have a couple that I like but rarely play simply because I vastly prefer the H profile, with V and W close behind, and organic far behind those. I like low walls, high spin rates, and unwavering stability.

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This is actually a plus to me.

A yo-yo that doesn’t do as much of the work keeping itself upright (or whatever angle), and doesn’t fight being tilted, is fun and rewarding in different ways than a hyper-stable yo-yo.

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For me the organics have more of a slow releaxed throw. More of a yoyo style for like zoning out in to a audio book/podcast or talking to people without too much thought in the play as mainly you do more simple tricks off vibes. Best kind of tricks though are side style and repeaters as it makes the yoyo bounce on the string.

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Its all about the feels. The sensitivity of plane management is more engaging like driving a manual transmission. Once you get comfortable, this creates a layer of smoothness that you can sense with every breath, similar to what a runner may call “runners high”. Those moments of float can be addictive and center weighted organics have a nice loose feel to them.

There was a discussion in The Current Learning Curve ( 2025) that @mable brought up about “In-Mount” vs “Laceration Style” directional concepts. These tricks that you mentioned neck stole, 2.0 hooks, 360 tricks and DNA would fall under this “Laceration Style”. Where tricks like “Rancid Milk” would be “In-Mount”. All could be done on any “Modern Yoyo” however they will feel different pending your yoyo of choice. Wide performance Bi-Metals I feel, tend to feel Stiff, they also make some elements to learn easier, like “Laceration Style”. Organics on the other hand might not have the stability or spin times, but make regenerations easier and more controllable as they flip easier, using regens can be a technique to keep combos going.

This was a-RT’s mission statement and gets into design philosophy.

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Thanks for your feed backs. I guess with more experience the feel and perspective will change. Perhaps I am still too green to realize some aspects of it. :grin:

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This is beautiful.

It’s the curves

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It’s all preference in terms of shape and feel, but the organic shape provides some advantages in terms of feel and takes less getting used to before feeling comfortable with holding and throwing compared to more competition oriented designs. The convex shape of organic yoyos allows for the placement depth of the fingers to be more proportional to their lengths, which can feel a bit nicer in the hand. One small caveat is that the closer the profile is to being a rounded, inward curve down to the bearing, the better it will feed the string, so more organic shapes will have a less optimal ability in that regard. Because of this, they serve a more laid back, relaxed play style rather than one that implements fast or stressful long combos, or horizontal

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