What trick are you working on?

(Ken) #1302

Adding to my front style tech combo today.

(ClockMonsterLA) #1303

I’ve discovered that I really need to master a basic side flip before I’ll have any chance of getting The Matrix down. Too often when I try one, the yoyo collides with my inner throwing arm, so there must be something about the mechanics of a side roll I’m getting terribly wrong.

(ChrisFrancz) #1304

I’m mostly interested in fast front style stuff too. I got down trapeze well enough but front stuff interests me most. To me, it just looks cooler being so fast and I’ve gotten binding down really good so it’s like playing responsive with the natural / traditional snap back to my hand. @smileypants707 tutorial where he shows that sky bind is my next bind. That can be incorporated with front or side play.


Halfway through Yuuki concepts. I’m at the Yuuki knot section.

(Tyler) #1306

Got down Hidemasa hook this week. I was having trouble with the string going to my throw hand being wrapped on the wrong way, but figured out what I was doing wrong and now I can land it probably 90% of the time. Other element that’s been annoying me is brother slack to ninja vanish. I can do them both just fine, but combining them has been more difficult than expected lol.


Agreed brother to ninja is getting better, slack brother to ninja is very elusive for me. Maybe 20%


However I did figure out why I was doing brother to ninja knot and that’s not happening any more.
(It was how I was holding the loop w my throw hand finger)

(ChrisFrancz) #1309

I accomplished a major hurdle in my throwing development and it has made me extremely happy. I studied diagrams in trick books, watched every tutorial dozens of times - including the Yomega DVD with slow-mo clips, and I just could not make it work and it was driving me crazy because it was the frontstyle hurdle I wanted to leap over and perfect before lunging into sidestyle. Some people make it seem so easy and it was frustrating me to no end. Today at work I told my friend who I only see at work: “Barrell Rolls are kicking my butt.” We went to the back lobby and I pulled two yoyos out of my pocket and handed him one. We threw down and did the same mount and he showed me some corrections in what I was doing and in 5 minutes I was doing Barrell Rolls properly! Trying to learn this trick over the last month was driving me almost to tears. It just was not clicking and it seemed like it should be so easy. Now, I’m going to keep practicing this trick for a few weeks until I no longer have to put as much thought into the hand motions and it becomes very smooth and fluid. He told me his favorite throw, a DV888 has a shot bearing so guess who’s gonna be surprised tomorrow with a new concave bearing and a new bottle of thin lube? Thanks for reading!

(ClockMonsterLA) #1310

So what’s the secret? (My barrel rolls suck.)

(ChrisFrancz) #1311

Having problens with barrell rolls? I assumed most people here get by on tutorials or have throw friends. Having someone IN PERSON show me where to push my finger and tell me how I should move my hand made ALL the difference. I have no secrets. I’d watch tutorials and think I got it then throw and get into the mount and POOF! I was lost. IN PERSON coaching is 100% superior to video tutorials. Now I’m afraid I will wake up tomorrow and forget how to do it!

(ClockMonsterLA) #1312

I can “do” barrel rolls, but I don’t feel I have the rhythm down quite right, and so I can’t do them fast. Not only that, but I miss the front string a lot of the time and the yoyo just drops straight down and out of the formation.

(ChrisFrancz) #1313

Yeah, I get that dropping every few times. If you can do a few rolls watch what you are doing carefully. YOU WILL SUCCEED! Right now my rolls are too tight. I want them bigger. I’m not worried about speed and neither should you. Once we get better at doing them slowly the speed and ease will come just like when we first learned to tie our shows. It seemed so difficult at first and now we can do it while watching TV.

({John15}) #1314

Brother ninja was really frustrating to learn, but one day it just… clicked. It takes slightly more wrist action than regular ninja, you really have to whip that string. I don’t use four fingers anymore either, just my NTH index; but using all four did seem to help while learning.

It’s also one of my favorite tricks. Try doing a magic drop - landed on the front string instead of the back [slightly modified brother] - to brother ninja. Super satisfying!

(ChrisFrancz) #1315

I forgot to say last night - I actually like the way slow barrell rolls look. There’s a nice flowiness to it of course a lot of spin time is lost going slow. If I can do this really fast on responsive it will be a great day though I have not attempted it yet.

({John15}) #1316

Fun and flowy arm-y elements

(ChrisFrancz) #1317

Okay. Deep breath (for me). I just learned Split the Atom! Now it’ll take me 3-4 days to perfect it. It takes me a looooong time to grasp hand movements in tricks so when it finally clicks I usually go through a day or two of believing I can’t possibly actually be DOING this trick and all the doubt and worry that I will forget the motions. I can now do Brain Twister, Barrell Rolls, Split the Atom, land a Trapeze, as well as misc. rolls, flips, and some weird no-name oddities I picked up from a Dylan Kowalski frontstyle tutorial. 2 1/2 months ago I could do none of these things! Thank you for reading this!:grin:

(ChrisFrancz) #1318

Okay, you are all probably more experienced than I am… clear me up on this, please: Isn’t Split the Atom just a little more complicated and smaller Brain Twister? That’s the impression I am getting. I got it down pat but now I’m like - I just learned a complicated Brain Twister called Split the Atom.

(ClockMonsterLA) #1319

Split the Atom is basically just a Brain Twister from the split bottom mount.


Haven’t worked on other people’s tricks in years I don’t think. I just mess around and do whatever seems fun at the moment :slightly_smiling_face:

(ChrisFrancz) #1321

But then there’s the second mount like in the first barrell roll then the third and then basically a brain twister few spins around the finger. Man, it was so difficult for me to learn and I’m like, okay, brain twister but I’m guessing it’ll help with the coordination for the more complicated tricks so…cool. I guess. If I did not learn barrell rolls I would not be able to do split the atom…