I really like okra. One just needs to get beyond the slime factor. If you don’t overcook it it doesn’t get so slimy.
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Fried okra is fantastic
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I’m pretty sure not overcooking vegetables is the secret to making them all taste good.
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Have to be honest, in Italy we use pretty much no seasoning.
For example roast chicken is just some salt and rosemary, beef is parsley, garlic and oil.
For salad is usually only oil or vinegar and salt.
When I came to live in UK and even more when I met my girlfriend, I see the amount of spices and seasoning used here and is insane but I have to say, the food in UK is unedible without the seasoning, everything taste like plastic and old (except if you spend a tons of money), usually chicken taste weird and same beef, salad even worst, the tomatoes are like a piece of cardboard, the quality of stuff here in a normal market are awful.
It seems I speak on stereotypes but it is the sad truth, I had to start to appreciate seasoning in here (it took me like couple of years) but stuff doesn’t taste as it should be, even the seasoning themselves are weird, the basil I buy here is nothing compared the basil at home and same the rosemary, I have to use double the stuff to make the same effect as the herbs at home.
Before in Italy I was used to eat everything plain, just oil and salt and origano sometimes and it was perfect as it was, everything was always fresh (my fav pizza for example is margherita and pasta is just with tomato sauce, no meat at all), here is borderline impossible to do anything like that, even pizza in most of the places I need to put something on top or it taste sort of acid (it is the fault of the tomato sauce they use) or very tasteless, except if you spend a lot (which on a pizza for example is ridicolous).
All this to say, that if the primary source is good and fresh, seasoning is highly overrated
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Mmmm beans and rice with salsa or chow chow if its pinto beans. Daaamn str8 son
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To the best of my knowledge, meat has the highest bio-availability of any food out there. I will eat it as long as I live.
That is not to say that there are tasty vegetarian dishes out there. I’ve had those before (if I remember correctly).
From about easily over a half century of paying attention, I have realized and recognized several things about vegetarians.
And some of the non meat eaters I’ve talked to, don’t even know the difference between Vegetarians and vegans
Vegetarians don’t not eat meat, but may consume, eggs, milk, cheese yogurt, etc.
Vegans not only Don’t eat any kind of meat, but they don’t even use goods made from animals, like leather, fur, any product animal based.
If you seriously Study the Vegetarian/or/ Vegan lifestyles and apply the valid aspects/practices, the results can be very good.
If you just figure you won’t eat meat, but mainly vegetables and such and you will be healthy, you are poorly mistaken.
On the other hand, people that say things like…. Man was meant to eat meat, blah, blah, blah….so they suck up chunks of meat, every single day. And eat it as RAW as possible, well they are in for a rude awakening.
There is an old saying, ‘Everything in moderation, nothing in Extreme’(something like that).
Pretty much EVERYTHING we injest that is identified as food, is contaminated one way or another. Antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, high fructose, 101 different preservatives, emulsifiers, nitrates and 200 others things I will not bother to mention. It doesn’t matter whether you are a meat eater or a vegetarian or a vegan. Just about everything we eat is helping Kill us.
Anybody and everybody that thinks they are in some kind of exclusive ‘we eat healthier lifestyle’ is living in a cloud of ignorance.
Whatever side of the food fence you choose, don’t just say ‘you are a this or that’. Study what you eat like you are gearing up for a College Final. You ‘are’ what you eat.
Choose wisely. There are at least 100 things that will Kill you, before the effects of food will take you out. So, you have to resolve yourself to this simple mindset>
To a certain extent, Man(or women.. or whatever you identify as) is the master of their own destiny. After that: good or bad fortune, happenstance, family health history, dictate your final moment.
Just think of yourself as being worth $1 million. And you wanna invest in something to keep from losing that million dollars. You certainly don’t wanna take any more chances than necessary that may result in you losing your money. So you study what you need to do in order to at least maintain $1 million worth of health that you already have.
There’s no guarantee in this world that you can make yourself live as long as you want to.
But if you just throw caution to the wind and eat and drink, whatever you want and think you got the luck of a leprechaun, you are definitely in for a rude awakening.
Ok… I’m going to get a double double, fries and a strawberry shake. That oratory made me hungry.
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I’ve been vegetarian for the past five years. (after having dabbled in it for periods over the last 20). I still eat eggs and cheese sometimes. For me, it’s primarily due to ethical considerations. I feel like I don’t want to eat things which I would be unwilling to kill if they were in front of me. As I’ve grown older, I’ve become less and less willing to do that, especially given that I really don’t need to in order to preserve my health.
My parents used to tell me that I’d be weak if I didn’t have plenty of meat, but going veg (for me) has definitely been accompanied by net benefits in my overall
feeling, fitness, and health metrics.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t preach being vegetarian or vegan as a lifestyle, and don’t judge dedicated carnivores. It just works for me. The rest of my family still happily eats meat (which can make mealtime prep a little more complicated, but since I’m mostly the one cooking, that’s no problem for me).
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let me preface this by saying i am in no way attacking yours or any other’s beliefs or choices. i am curious though why those of you who state ethical concerns with killing animals separate killing animals and killing plants. the unfortunate simple truth of life is that for any animal to survive, it must consume that which was once alive. i guess as a plant guy, i just dont see the difference between ending an animal’s life and ending a plant’s life. what makes you differentiate the two, if you don’t mind discussing your opinions on it?
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You can eat plants or parts of plants without killing them. Beans, fruits, etc. etc.
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Probably just that I’m an animal and I relate to animal states of being/consciousness more directly than that of plants. Intuitively, I have an easier time picking an apple or carrot than killing a chicken. In many cases, individual plants don’t need to be killed in order to eat them (in the same way that an animal would need to be in order to consume its flesh). Also, honestly I like to be aware of what the thing I’m eating is/was in life, and often I feel more connected to plant matter than, say, a cheeseburger (which can feel VERY far removed from a living cow)
I’ve killed plenty of animals and experienced animal distress in ways which make me feel bad about it. I’ve never had similar responses to killing the types of plants I eat. We certainly need to consume dead stuff, but I feel like in our society if I am able to pick and choose to consume stuff which makes me feel a little better, then I like to do that.
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I always find it funny when people delcare my vegan lifestyle as extreme whilst feasting on meat gathered from exploiting, torturing and eventually murdering innocent beings to the highest degree squeezing every last penny out of the process.
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or the responses like: but plants feel pain ! do you know how many animals die when planting and harvesting vegetables for you to eat! Much less than the amount of animals that die when planting and harvesting the vegetables that feed the animals I eat!
i see. thanks for your very thoughtful response!
@TheThrowingGnome there definitely are plants that can be used without killing it, i just wasn’t specifically referencing that group. i just was curious about the ethical stance. im always curious about the way other humans view the world, especially when it differs from mine
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Does ovo vegetarian count?
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Plants aren’t sentient and therefore don’t suffer. A brain and nervous system are needed in order to be sentient. Of course, if you care about plant suffering, then being vegan is also the way to consume less of them. More plants go into the feeding of livestock than it would take to just feed us.
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This conversation reminds me of the Tool track Disgustipated.
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I thought this was the thread that people change the name of… 
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Brother same.