Yeah it was my first unresponsive. I remember I was gifted a beat up markmont next and that was my first “serious” yoyo and I remember as an intermediate player the ridiculously overwhelming difference between the two, it was almost beyond imagination seeing that I had used that ONE for like 2 months.
Now that MN is by far the worst yoyo in my collection.
The more awesome a person’s skills…you know the rest… In a year I will be better at playing a One. Better skills, poof, a yoyo suddenly seems better!
I started on a Sage, and for the brief time I spent learning the very basic basics with a responsive yoyo, that Sage was great. But after about a month, I learned to bind and moved right into high quality metal yoyos which have accelerated my learning considerably. I see no virtue in delaying the transition to a good metal yoyo (and not looking back), particularly if you can afford one or one was graciously gifted to you.
The Onestar(or sage) is much better than the ONE too so just imagine that 
Felt the same way, but for me it was Sage pro then brand new Top Deck.
Mind. Blown.
Competitive play may have moved towards bimetals in a big way over the years, but I get the impression that quite a lot of non-contest players are super into the “chill” play of organics like A-RT throws, the Murmur, etc. Yoyo companies typically seek to cater to all types of play, including the chilled-out organic experience, so I would find it highly unusual if a company like One Drop didn’t try to make throws for that segment of the market.
Yup. I wish I knew that 3 3/4 years ago. Up until this September I was adamantly opposed to unresponsive because I did not know how much it would help me progress AND because I was just scared of learning to bind. Better late than never. I play the Sage unresponsive now.
I agree with geezer’s point but even I think he’s being a little too harsh.
In terms of the competition spectrum OD has definitely fallen off to more “chill” and “fun” yoyos but I don’t really agree the turning point was the Cascade. I think the Cascade was a fine yoyo for the time, it wasn’t the best but on the American side it was still one of the better yoyos on the market. Also, OD was pumping out great designs for a little while after the release of the Cascade. The Summit and Chik were great yoyos for the time, maybe not compared to the Japanese competition but definitely everything else. The Rally was arguably the best plastic in the game, the benchmarks were some of the best budget metals in the game, and at the time of release, the Format C and Valor were the best American yoyos, even arguably best non-Asian yoyo, there was. I think there fall was after the Valor. I felt like that was their final push. It was there way of saying “this is the final result of all of the experience we’ve gained over the years, this is our best yoyo”
After that they started focusing on the more “fun” and “chill” yoyos outside of a few exceptions like the Top Deck and VTWO.
I do disagree with his statement saying that OD “was” one of the most respected and cherished companies in the US and implying that they have fallen out of love. I see that being more the case with CLYW but OD is still one of the most loved and respected companies in the game. It’s just not exactly for the same reasons as companies like YYR and UNPRLD. And that’s not really a problem, I just really do wish they start producing bimetals and making more performance monsters
Team Dollar Tree, that’s right up my alley haha.
I love this thread
On a serious note though I do like all the debate that happens on the forum even if it may seem a little too tense or heated sometimes, but a lot of the time it means steering away from the OP.
But with this thread we can switch topics every 3 posts and it’s whatever 
Yeah, because bimetals are awesome. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS
I find it interesting to see people have strong opinions one way or the other about bimetals
To me this is all about design: rim weight is simply a function of metal thickness and position. If you make the rim thick enough, you’ll get lots of rim weight. The only thing bimetal does is give you the ability to do that in a thinner wall, so aesthetically a bimetal could be more pleasing, as you can pack the rim weight in without a chunky block of Aluminum along for the ride.
But adding another metal to the mix doesn’t come without both literal and figurative cost. You can credibly argue that bimetals are needlessly more complex and more expensive … as long as you’re ok with chunky monometal rims. Remember that the adoption of stronger 7075 and 7068 aluminum alloys has further muddied the waters in terms of thickness vs. weight, too!
Still, I find it hard to believe that aesthetics (“this rim is just too d**n thick!”) is a real concern for any vaguely competent yo-yoer?
I like bimetals, I think they’re very cool, but I can’t deny that there is a certain “because we could” element to them.
I can agree with this, believe it or not. I don’t hate them, I just don’t feel compelled to buy them. I wouldn’t mind having a high end bimetal in my collection; like the SF SS or Elite. But but I’m not losing sleep over them if you know what I mean
Lies, you covet them like the 
coveted the 
Not going to lie, I had to look up that reference.
The short story is about a fox who sees a clump of grapes hanging from a tree and decides to eat them to quench his thirst. He tries to jump and retrieve the grapes, but they are out of reach. Eventually, the fox determines that the grapes must be sour and confidently, yet disappointedly, walks away.
The moral of the story is that you often hate what you can’t have
Maybe there’s some of that going on… But I maintain a healthy (or not so healthy) covetousness for the Grail, Diptych, Quail, G2Hawk, Banshee, and Wolf… All pretty much more difficult to obtain than a bimetal, So, idk (?) 
Get your Aesop on, my dude
It’s on my list of to-reads. Along with Moby ■■■■, Robinson Crusoe (read it when I was a kid, want to read it again), a few theology books, The Odyssey, and a few others. IF I CAN GET MY ADHD BRAIN TO SETTLE DOWN LONG ENOUGH TO ABSORB THE CONTENTS OF A BOOK. 
Unpopular yoyo opinion: sometimes, reading a book is a better use of your time than practicing yoyo
A book about yo-yos obviously
I’m guessing a lot of us did lol.
Catcher in the Rye, The Grapes of Wrath, 1984, Travels With Charley. Sallinger, Steinbeck, Orwell, Steinbeck.
The Great Gatsby, Brave New World, Disgrace
