Also, I might be reading too much into your comment…and maybe I’m feeling so defensive over it because…really…I do take for granted a lot of things in life that I could be much more grateful for.
My brother you have children, who you support, and can still afford to treat yourself to hobbys, i was not attempting to target anyone, much less someone with your accomplishments in life. Simply giving the reminder that we are lucky to be here in the first place.
I’ve held throws for people a number of times, with minimal issues. If I can help someone out and I’m in a place to do so I will. That being said if I’m trying sell something quickly I will avoid holding things. It just comes down to what you’re comfortable with
For me, it’s first come, first serve, though I might grant favors for people I like.
Why should I penalize a person who has the money now just because somebody else saw the BST post first and called “dibs”? Some of us have jobs and can’t be reading the BST all day to snag the good stuff.
My policy is that I’m holding the yoyo for whomever buys it first. But seriously, the only condition that I would actually do a “hold” is if the buyer was paying me a premium to do so - maybe a 10% hold policy?
Not actually a bad way to do it, makes sense for both sides
Living paycheck to paycheck is to me by no means a bad thing. Whom is taking money with them in the end? And as you stated, we are all living like kings compared to many many people.
I also make sure bills, food, medicine and gas are taken care of first. I pay deeply into my 401k and I do have enough in savings so that if something crazy happens and I need a couple months to find something new I can (which might mean I’m not living paycheck to paycheck with that last sentiment.)
I honestly recommend trading to individuals that aren’t rolling in the dough, you can try so many things with the cost of shipping.
I’ve been burnt too many times after holding for a few days. Something always comes up and they back out. I have had a few positive experiences with holds too, but the practice has been soured by the multiple bad ones. The only time I will consider a hold now is if the sale is a direct offer to someone before it hits the open market.
On the other side, I won’t reach out to purchase if I am not ready to buy something immediately. No holds for me.
Adding to this because I think perspective is important. If make more than $30,000 USD a year, you’re richer than 80% of the global population.
So many opinions makes me wonder whether there should be a policy on this so that everyone would be on the same page.
The problem is that I can see and empathize with many of the opinions here. There is no obvious policy that would make everyone happy.
A few times I have been on the purchasing end, and a couple times on the sale end. As for purchasing I have always phrased it I’ll have the money on this date, with the understanding that if they get an offer prior to the throw isn’t mine, and that I’m OK with. As for the sales they both times we’re throws that weren’t openly listed so it wasn’t really a loss if the deals fell through.
So, I really don’t want to be an ■■■, you probably had good intentions but if someone is saying that they’re living paycheck to paycheck and your response is to think of their claim as dubious and also say “but you have it better than so many other people, you need to remember this and be appreciative of what you have” that’s just a trash response. It’s to assume a lot about someone else’s lifestyle and self-reflectivity, among other things.
It’s a lovely sentiment and absolutely; people need to be more mindful of the relative luxuries afforded to them but so often when this rhetoric is deployed (as I see it here) it’s used as a dismissal/pacification of legitimate issues. Maybe instead of shifting the blame to the individual and their supposed “financial illiteracy” you direct that at a system that chronically undercompenstates/steals from laborers and fails to provide adequate/accessible healthcare or put some time into thinking about why someone “in the top 5% of the world” is living paycheck to paycheck. You’re smart you’ll come up with some ideas.
Whoopee if you make 30k you, by the article posed here that I haven’t read, make more than 80% of the global population! So? There’s lots of people making 30k USD who are still barely getting by with multiple roomates. I promise you they’re not all “bad with money”. Meanwhile, my dad who’s in that 80% in our little “3rd would country” owns a home. Something many in that other 20% likely will never. Super helpful stat though…
I don’t think a policy is necessary, it comes down to what the seller wants to do, it is a sellers market after all. I think we all just need to follow through on what we agree to
Being in the EU I’ve had some sellers agree to sell things to me, I ask for their PayPal, and then they take several hours to reply with it, and by the time they do I’m sleeping. When I wake up I’ll pay them, multiple times I’ve been sent back a refund saying “sorry somebody else already bought it.”
I’ve got somebody holding for me right now until I can trade with them within the US so we both save on shipping (and it might arrive faster anyway.) I appreciate it, but it’s also not like it’d be a big deal if they sold it before we could trade and said “sorry I got an offer and needed the money.” I’d understand. They’re just toys and that’s the nature of stuff on the BST anyway, it comes and goes like the wind.
I feel like it’s just up to individual discretion. How much do you need money atm, how impatient are you with trades, is it a trade or a sale, do you know it’s something the person who wants to get it has been fiending over it, etc.
Seems like a case by case basis and not something to have a hard rule over.
Anybody got a 3rd run Peak they can put on hold for me for a year? Slide into my DMs, lol
This post hit home today. Dude reached out a few days ago wanting a throw and said he’d pay today. Me, expecting the money today went ahead and paid half in a throw yesterday with the promise if paying the rest today. Dude didn’t have money left to pay me after he paid his bills (politely told him not to worry about it, life happens) and reserved myself to obviously be a man if my word and go ahead and pay the money to the other dude today as promised. Went ahead and relisted said yoyo asking for a quick sale at a low price. Kind Canadian came through and was able to provide said funds without having to go out of pocket (which I would have done, no questions asked, because all you really have is your word.
And an earlier poster said it best, it’s a toy, don’t let it get you messed up in the head (easier said than done but they were speaking truth and the truth hurts sometimes.)
Perfectly Okey with holding a sale for someone, All I ask is you notify me if you change your mind so that I can let the next person know. I will usually send out a message towards the anticipated time of payment to double check.
This is something that has been bothering me for a long time . I have people literally spend days with me on back and forth to workout an agreement just to ask me to hold and then never hear anything back. I don’t usually hold anything unless I have dealt with that person before.
To me it is pretty cut and dried…
It depends on how they word their pitch.
For example, if a person says, ‘That is the yo-yo I have been waiting for my whole entire life. If I miss out on this yo-yo because you won’t hold it for me…… I will KILL myself!
Then…. I will actually hold the yo-yo for at least 10 minutes.
But, if the person says, ‘I’d really love to take that yo-yo off your hands, but if I miss out and you sell it to somebody else, I certainly won’t KILL myself’.
Then, I will hold it for at least an hour.
….Now, if a person says, ‘Can you hold the yo-yo for one week until I gather the funds’?
I will tell ‘em, ‘Sure, I will hold it for you. Just immediately PayPal me 3 times the asking price as a good faith gesture. Then if you end up buying the yo-yo, I will give you half your money back.
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No need for a policy, as was suggested. It’s really simple. Potential buyers can ask for, but should not expect holds. It’s at the discretion of the seller. If they don’t mind, great for the prospective buyer. If not, that’s their prerogative.
As a seller, I would not mind holding short term if the buyer seems committed and gives me a clear timeline. But not going to hold indefinitely on a maybe or hopefully.
I had a moment while reading above where someone said they would hold… Until someone else expressed interest in a throw. From the legendary Seinfeld: “You know how to take a reservation, but you don’t know how to hold onto it.” Holding until someone else says “I want it” isn’t really holding it, is it?
If I see a yoyo on the BST with “pending” after it, and I want to buy that yoyo, I’ll DM the seller with something to the effect of “if the deal falls through I’ll take it”. That way I can be next on the list if the original buyer backs out, without trying to buy the throw out from under the first person.
A “pending” status shouldn’t turn off additional prospective buyers.
I never ask for holds, if a yoyo sells before I can get to the bank and drop the money into PayPal then oh well. Not saying I wouldn’t break this rule for the right yoyo, but in that case I think it’s reasonable to offer a nonrefundable percentage down as good faith money.
Ivan