So I recently got a Hydrangea.
I freaking love it. This made me curious about the other Japanese brands. Currently mostly Turning Point.
But it’s hard to find any info on it.
So tell me about your favourite models. What are they and why do you like them?
Some models I’ve been looking at are the Hinemosu, Top Nur, Turning point III and Point Break. But if there’s others you’d recommend I’d love to hear about them.
Sell me a on a Turning Point.
In my mind Hydrangea is absolute bog standard, no-nonsense performance focused yoyo done extremely well. Emphasis on standard specs and general design.
Turning Point makes performance-forward yoyos but often with atypical specs. If Hydrangea is standard then Turning Point is niche. You’ll find capped yoyos, tiny yoyos, huge yoyos, heavy yoyos, etc.
Turning Point I think is for the player who wants a specific niche of yoyo, while still having performance as the primary focus. So in my mind going for Turning Point means you want something 52mm or below in diameter, or something over 70 grams.
If you want something very standard from Turning Point, I think you’ll quickly find that you can get models from other brands that perform better or are a lot cheaper (often both), and at that point you’re just picking it up because the players or aesthetics are speaking to you.
Turning Point is not the peak of yoyo performance, but the goofy spec models are absolutely built to perform and not just casual models that make yoyoing harder.
I suggest to find TP st. Tempest anodized version not raw. Awesome yoyo
Fits best when you want it stays stable vertically without churning axis. Solid but nimble. Narrow gap. Very durable. Spins very reliable.
To me the hinemosu is best and easiest to accustom yourself with
Cool. Thanks for recommending. Why?
It’s a modern versatile design which excels at everything I would say. And has that TP feel while not being too heavy
Interesting about hydrangea. They got me hooked with Shigehiro’s tutorials.
Might have to find more of them.
During my first year of yo-yoing I wanted to try one of everything. This is led to me owning at least one of most brands. Admittedly, I haven’t tried a hydrangea.
However it took me almost a year to you even try a turning point yo-yo. They seemed almost boring and expensive compared to so many other brands.
Nowadays, I’m not too worried about variety of brands, I just want different Turning Point models lol
Out of my top 5 most expensive models 3 are Turning Point.
I believe the founder was a 3A player who wanted to make better 3A yo-yos. Thats why Turning Point ended up making so many heavy rim weighted models, the demands of the division are different and call for maximum stability and spin time. I think I once read they were the very first Japanese company to exclusively sell metal yo-yos only. They focused on quality, not quick cash.
Fast forward a bit and we have people like Jason Liu winning 1a divisions in China with his even heavier 76g models based on his design of the Collapsar.
I don’t think the current scoring system favors heavier throws, but the style of their players shines through if you ask me. That being said Turning Point makes several normal weight throws nowadays. I haven’t tried the Hinemosu but I would love to!
The annodized ones are annoyingly hard to come by, but I bet they will hold their value really well.
Hades, Collapsar, Outsider and Seraph
You got an Amaryllis right? Hydrangea stuff is more optimized for performance, trying to be much more efficient with their weight. Aquilegia and Berberis are extremely good but come with the caveat of titanium price tags, and since they’re lighter I actually think they’re a bit worse than the Amy or old Magnolia. Really I think you’ve hit the peak with the Amaryllis, and anything else will be a downgrade. If Amaryllis but less wide is appealing, then Magnolia could be nice.
Turning Points are generally more concerned with durability than efficiency, and leave a lot more of their mass in the walls and especially axle/hub of the yoyo. This is absolutely a positive aspect if you’re into 3A, but it’s actively sacrificing performance for durability. There’s always trade offs in designs.
Outside of the niche spec stuff, I think a lot of the appeal of Turning Point is sort of collector focused. Certainly good models, but I think you’ll play a Hinemosu and be left with the impression of “yeah it’s a good yoyo, and I already have several other good yoyos.” In 2026 I think a yoyo like the Hinemosu or Colony or something is basically just “I really like Takeshi” and that’s about it.
That durability thing is also quite nice when you play 5a over stone floors like I do a lot. So that might actually be interesting then.
I definately will be looking in to Hydrangea more then. Thanks for the answer
That’s how I’d describe it too.
